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Woolley_Man 23.04.2005 03:58 PM

Re:New York Jets Thread
the thing with Jolley was that he fell out of favour with norv turner.He was a good TE in 2002 when he was the 3rd or 4th option behind rice,brown and porter.The raiders played a more wide open offense where the raiders would rather have 4wrs than a TE out there.I think he should be good under dinger.

I doubt brown will be there when we pick,i think the rams and the ravens both want him.I'm sure we will draft an OT before the 5th round,but i think we will look at CB,DT(especialy id Castilo or CJ mosley are on the board if we pick) and maybe a safety.There is an outside chance we take the kicker from ohio state with our first pick.

andy71 23.04.2005 04:07 PM

Re:New York Jets Thread
The Browns or Ravens would have to take J.B. with a first round pick to get him before the Jets. Do you reckon they would?. I'm not sure it's their most pressing need.

Woolley_Man 23.04.2005 04:10 PM

Re:New York Jets Thread
Brown is considered by most as a first round pick.If he falls into the second round we might trade up for him.

andy71 23.04.2005 04:22 PM

Re:New York Jets Thread
I hope we can get ourselves a really good O line this year. They had some great games together last year but I think with the shotgun getting added to the gameplan this year we've got to get the right combination of guys. I hope it doesn't turn into our achilles heel.

Woolley_Man 23.04.2005 04:29 PM

Re:New York Jets Thread
i wouldn't worry too much,one of the things we are good at is developing good young O-linemen(Kerry jenkings,Ryan young,Kareem Mckenzie and brandon moore).The thing that intrests me about Adrian jonnes is that he has good athletic ability and should be a better LT than RT,he could be our franchise LT.

I'd like to add depth though along the line.A guy who's name i hear in our mock drafts in OT ray wills.He should be a good RT when he develops).

Woolley_Man 23.04.2005 05:01 PM

Re:New York Jets Thread
We've re-signed James tank reed.I wonder if this makes DT less of a priority?

Jets | Reed Re-Signed - from
Sat, 23 Apr 2005 09:03:23 -0700

The New York Jets have re-signed DT James Reed. Terms of the deal were undisclosed.

andy71 23.04.2005 07:24 PM

Re:New York Jets Thread
Well, that's Jammal Brown OT gone to New Orleans. Didn't expect that!.

Woolley_Man 23.04.2005 11:57 PM

Re:New York Jets Thread
i'm suprised we took mike nugent with justin miller still available.but he may still be there with our next pick.

Mike Nugent


Ohio State

Pros: Strong leg, very accurate. Can do his own kickoffs. Makes the long field goals, as a senior went 7/9 40+ and 5/6 50+ yard FGs.
Cons: Small, but he's a kicker - its not that big a deal.

Draft Exchange Analysis:
Senior Stats: 30/30 PAT, 100%. 24/27 FG, 88.9%. 0/0 under 20, 5/5 20-30, 7/7 30-40, 7/9 40-50, 5/6 50-60. Long 55, 102 points scored.

At a Glance: One of the nation’s best place kickers … handles all the kickoff and place-kicking duties for the Buckeyes … has earned consideration for the Lou Groza Award, given annually to the football’s best collegiate kicker … in three seasons has scored 254 points at Ohio State, which includes 48 field goals made and 110 converted extra points … owns 12 school records, including the record for most field goals of 40 or more yards with 17 (he is 17-for-22 from 40 yards out)…won first-team All-America honors as a sophomore … has made 48-of-61 field goals during his career … lifetime 110-of-113 in the PAT department and has made his last 50 (last miss was in San Jose St. game in 2002) … has earned recognition as a three-time Ohio State Scholar Athlete.

2003 (Junior): Though he did not repeat as an All-American after a first team appearance as a sophomore, Nugent still enjoyed an outstanding season and was particularly effective down the stretch for the Buckeyes … wound up the year hitting 16-of-19 field goal attempts and was a perfect 38-of-38 in the extra point department for a team leading 86 points … hit seven of his last eight field goal attempts, including a personal best four field goals against Michigan State and three-of-four, including the game winner, against Purdue … entered the season with an Ohio Stadium record of 15 consecutive field goals made in the Horseshoe and extended that mark to 17 before missing on his third attempt against San Diego State … was good from 53 yards out against Iowa, the second-longest field goal in Ohio Stadium history and a personal best for Nugent … also hit a 52-yarder against Purdue … both kicks made it with plenty of room to spare.

2002 (Sophomore): Named to a first-team berth on the Football Writers, Associated Press and Walter Camp All-America teams, becoming the first Buckeye place-kicker ever to capture All-America recognition … also one of three finalist for the Lou Groza Award and was a first-team All-Big Ten selection … led the team in scoring with 120 points, the most ever by an OSU kicker … also led the Big Ten in field goals made with 25 … hit 25-of-28 field goal attempts after making just 7-of-14 the previous year as a true freshman … wound up the 2002 campaign setting nine school records … made a huge PAT in the Fiesta Bowl converting at the end of the first overtime following an illegal procedure penalty on the Buckeyes that backed the ball up to the 8-yard line … began the season by making his first 23 field goals before finally missing at Illinois … finished the regular-season hitting 25-of-28 treys, with two of those misses at Illinois (his other miss came in the Fiesta Bowl where he was 1-of-2) … made 24 field goals in a row before just missing from 37 yards out at Illinois (other miss at Illinois was from 41 yards) … had three field goals of 40 or more yards in the win over Washington State to tie the school single-game record … kicked at least one field goal in each of the Buckeyes’ first 12 games and in 13 of the 14 games overall … 45-of-46 in the PAT department, the lone miss coming on a mishandled snap against San Jose State.

2001 (Freshman): Made seven of his 14 field goal attempts and 27-of-29 extra point tries for a total of 48 points … nailed a key 35-yarder at Minnesota in a 31-28 win … was good from 33 yards out in the fourth quarter at Michigan, giving the Buckeyes a 26-13 lead … 44-yarder against Northwestern was his longest of the year.

High School: Second-team Division I Associated Press All-Ohio selection … first-team Western Ohio League and All-Southwest Ohio selection ... connected on 5-of-7 field goal opportunities … kicked a school record 52-yard field goal … converted 13-of-17 field goals in his career ... perfect 29-of-29 on PATs in 2000 and set a school record with 165 PATs ... totaled 262 points in his four-year career ... also played quarterback ... threw for three touchdowns and rushed for seven as a senior … team captain and offensive MVP as a senior … member of the National Honor Society.

Personal: Son of Dan and Carolyn Nugent … has two sisters, Katherine and Susan, and one brother, Kevin … his father played football at Wisconsin and later at the University of Dayton (both his father and mother are UD graduates) and Kevin is a junior on the OSU soccer team … enjoys coaching and working at youth kicking camps …Washington, D.C., is the most interesting place he has visited to date and Europe is a destination he would like to visit in the future … Lou Groza is a historical figure he would like to dine with along with Chris Farley and Michael Jordan … favorite memory in 2003 was hitting the go ahead overtime field goal vs. Purdue … best football memory is winning the 2002 National Championship … singing Carmen Ohio after each game is his favorite OSU tradition … if he were not playing football for Ohio State, he would be on the OSU soccer team.

Woolley_Man 24.04.2005 12:47 AM

Re:New York Jets Thread
And we get miller,the kid hast potential(he was rated as a potential first rounder before he got himself arrested) but he has off the field problems.

Justin Miller



HEIGHT 5'11"
40 TIME 4.45

Pros: Very good cover corner, has return capabilities. Great speed, has not hit his peak yet.
Cons: Just needs more work to improve his game, shore up the run D a bit too.

Draft Exchange Analysis:
Miller Fact: Joins Bobby Gage as the only players in Tiger history to score a touchdown on a kickoff return and a punt return. Years Lettered: 2002,03 Bowl Participation: Starting cornerback in the 2002 Tangerine Bowl against Texas Tech and the 2004 Peach Bowl against #6 Tennessee. Fall 2004 Depth Chart Position: First-team cornerback

Overview: Top cover corner on the team...should be a First-Team All-ACC candidate this season and a candidate for All-America honors...listed as the #4 cornerback in the nation according to Sporting News, which also lists Miller as a second-team All-American...Thorpe Award candidate according to Street & Smith...earned Honorable Mention All-ACC status in 2003; he was second-team as a freshman...had two interceptions as a sophomore and has 10 for his career, tied for 10th in school history...has 32 passes defended through two years as a Tiger...finished the 2003 season strong with double figures in passes defended...also an outstanding kick return man; he is first in Clemson history in kickoff return average (29.1)...he is one of only two players in Clemson history to return both a kickoff and punt for touchdown (Bobby Gage is the other)...started all 13 games last year and 20 in a row...named to the ACC Academic Honor Roll in 2003; he was voted most improved in the classroom by the Clemson coaching staff...First-Team Academic All-ACC in 2003...only starter on the Clemson team who was named to Clemson Academic Honor Roll in both semesters last year...also named to the ACC Academic Honor Roll for the entire 2003-04 academic year...voted most improved at his position during winter workouts by the strength coaches.

2003: Had 13 pass breakups, giving him a total of 15 passes defended...ranked second in the ACC in passes defended; he is second in the league for 2004 among returning players...sixth on the team with 54 tackles, 45 of which were first hits...played 819 snaps; only Jamaal Fudge (850) and Travis Pugh (821) played more on defense...fourth in the ACC in kickoff return average (24.5)...big reason Clemson's kick return team led the nation for much of the season...had a 9.1-yard punt return average; that total was aided by a touchdown return against Duke...had at least one pass defended in nine games...had three tackles in the season-opener versus #9 Georgia; also had three kickoff returns for 83 yards...had two tackles and a pass breakup in the Furman game...had six tackles and a pass breakup at Maryland...had three tackles and a pass breakup against #24 Virginia...had three kickoff returns for 71 yards at N.C. State...had his first interception against North Carolina; showed his playmaking ability with a 30-yard return of that interception...played well against Florida State's dangerous receiving corps; he had seven tackles and a pass breakup; all seven tackles were first hits...had a pass breakup and outwrestled a Duke receiver for an interception, then had a 63-yard punt return for a touchdown; Special Teams Player-of-the-Game by the Tiger coaches for that performance...had three tackles and a pass breakup at South Carolina...had an outstanding performance in the Peach Bowl; had his first career sack and three pass breakups, so he ended his sophomore season on a high note; named to the Sports Illustrated All-Bowl team thanks to that effort.

2002: First-team unanimous freshman All-American; he was named by Football Writers Association, Sporting News,, and eight interceptions, as he led the ACC and finished fifth in the nation on a per-game basis...led all freshmen nationally in interceptions...had a record-tying interception in the Tangerine Bowl against Texas Tech...was third in the ACC in passes defensed (17); he had eight interceptions and nine pass deflections to tie a Clemson freshman record (Robert O'Neal, 1989) in that category...his 35.1 kickoff return average on 13 returns was a Clemson single-season record...second in the balloting for ACC Rookie-of-the-Year...Second-Team All-ACC according to the ACC Sportswriters Association...tied the Clemson single-season record for interceptions with eight; he tied the record of eight set by Robert O'Neal in 1989...ironically, O'Neal was also a first-year freshman that year...Miller accomplished that with just seven starts on defense...started the opening home game on offense as a wide receiver and caught a pass for nine yards on Clemson's first offensive play of the home schedule; later had an interception in that game, becoming the first Clemson player to have a reception and an interception in the same game since 1964...started each of the last seven games on defense and had six of his eight interceptions during that time period...had his best all-around game in a Clemson loss; he had two interceptions, two caused fumbles, and five tackles against Maryland...added four kickoff returns for 152 yards, the ninth-highest return game in Tiger history...also had four kickoff returns for 129 yards at Duke...had interceptions in three consecutive games (at Duke, at North Carolina, and two against Maryland), just one off the Tiger record for consecutive games with an interception...had a 24-yard interception return against Ball State that showed his athletic ability...had a 24-yard interception return against Wake Forest to go with 10 tackles in his 83 plays; that was his first career start; named ACC Rookie-of-the-Week for that performance, one of three times he was so named...had at least one pass defensed in 10 straight games...had a season-high 12 tackles in loss to N.C. State; he also had an 80-yard kickoff return (the first kickoff return of his career) for a touchdown in that game; it was the shortest kickoff return for a touchdown in Tiger history...had five tackles and an interception to go with two kickoff returns for 49 yards in the Tangerine Bowl against Texas Tech; also had a pass deflection for two total passes defensed...has the ability to be a big hitter on defense in addition to his interception abilities; he had 61 tackles, including 43 first hits...ranked ninth on the team in tackles, including seven on special teams...was the only first-year Tiger freshman to appear in a game.

Before Clemson: A USA Today Honorable Mention All-American as a senior...Tom Lemming Prep All-American; he ranked as the 11th-best defensive back in the nation according to Lemming...SuperPrep All-American who ranked as the ninth-best skill athlete in the nation...#2 player in Kentucky by SuperPrep...Atlanta Constitution top-75 player in the South...ranked among the top-20 defensive backs in the nation by, all-area, all-conference, and all-region as a junior and senior...played for Gordan Powers...rushed for 814 yards and 21 touchdowns as a senior running back...caught 19 passes for 498 yards and six scores...on defense, he had eight interceptions and 19 pass breakups to go with 48 tackles in 15 games...returned three kickoffs for touchdown...ran a 10.6 in the 100m in track and won the state title in the long jump as a junior with a jump of 23'4"...chose Clemson over Arkansas, Florida, Tennessee and Virginia Tech...born Justin M. Miller on February 14, 1984 (Valentine's Day)...majoring in sports management.

Woolley_Man 24.04.2005 02:45 AM

Re:New York Jets Thread
our 3rd pick is ... interesting.We took DT Sione Pouha over guys like Atiyyah Ellison and CJ mosley.The guy seems to be a bit of a reach and aint no spring chicken,he is a 26 year old rookie.

But on the brightside,the guy is big(6ft 3 322) and gives a bigger NT than fergy.He also was a team leader for his team and has a great character.And has a lot of upside.

nfldraftcountdown says "has just about everything the pros look for in a defensive tackle...could make a move up draft boards due to his impressive tools."

Sione Pouha
Position: Defensive Tackle
College: Utah
Height: 6-3
Weight: 330
Hometown: Salt Lake City, Utah

Two-year starter at defensive tackle … Strong, explosive player can bench press 475 pounds and squat 675 pounds … Signed with Utah back in 1997, then left for an LDS church mission to Pittsburgh, Pa. (1998-00) … Received heroism award from MWC after rescuing a woman from smoke-filled apartment in fall 2002 … Member of Utah's Student Athlete Mentor (SAMS) program … Elected to 2004 Utah Football Leadership Committee.

USA Today honorable mention All-American as senior in 1996 … Deseret News and Tribune first-team all-state … Two-year first-team all-region player for East High (Utah) … Captained East High's state championship team in 1996.

Son of Sonasi and Susana Pouha (pronounced bo-oo-ha) … Behavioral science and health major … First name is pronounced see-oh-nee … Full name is Sione Sonasi Pouha … Born Feb. 3, 1979.

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