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jack1 03.12.2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jrvincent1 (Post 1034094)
Vote Jack, vote against reason :D

The Irony is unbelievable.

Vincent 03.12.2009 09:16 PM

Quite!!!!!

clarence worley 04.12.2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jack1 (Post 1034082)
This video is an example of the idiots on both sides on the fence in the USA, these people just don't know the polices properly, as many don't for Obama.

The worrying thing about this video maker was the line "Lets not let volume beat reason"

Seems anti-democratic (not the party) to me.

I understand what you are saying however I don't blame him. So many American's are scared of any kind of change and as this video proves they will grasp at straws and come out with just incredibly cretinous nonsense, especially in regard to issues surrounding healthcare reform.

Comparing the current situation in the US to a third world country is not just naive but also very insulting. No wonder American's are blighted with the stigma of being ignorant to what’s going on in the wider scope of things. These idiots will probably stand by an ill executed not too mention completely misleading and unnecessary war in Iraq but the mere mention of creating something that will actually have some kind of positive effect on society and they get there knickers in a twist.

And the tie that binds all these imbeciles together....Glenn Beck, a man famous for spouting such nonsense as saying Obama has "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture,". Yes Glenn of course he does....fair enough if you don't agree with the mans ideology and political beliefs but to come out with such rubbish says alot about this guys character and friends of Fox News as a whole.

I have numerous friends in the States, falling on both sides of the political spectrum, and even those who are republican would be embarrassed by these morons.

While I'm sure not all Obama supporters are certified members of Mensa and may not have an intimate knowledge of Obama's policy and administration, I have never heard such downright fantasy as these inebriates are spouting coming from the mouth of a democrat.

And to top it all off a woman comparing Hollywood to communism....

jack1 04.12.2009 11:43 AM

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Comparing the current situation in the US to a third world country is not just naive but also very insulting. No wonder American's are blighted with the stigma of being ignorant to what’s going on in the wider scope of things. These idiots will probably stand by an ill executed not too mention completely misleading and unnecessary war in Iraq but the mere mention of creating something that will actually have some kind of positive effect on society and they get there knickers in a twist.
With the US news people on both sides of the spectrum sensationslise severly, just to put it into perspective they both claim the other side are ****'s.

Although, I don't agree with government healthcare they aren't using facts in these arguements.

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And the tie that binds all these imbeciles together....Glenn Beck, a man famous for spouting such nonsense as saying Obama has "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture,". Yes Glenn of course he does....fair enough if you don't agree with the mans ideology and political beliefs but to come out with such rubbish says alot about this guys character and friends of Fox News as a whole.
He has explained alot of the things the people on the video seem to know so little about on his show, it peoples fault if they pick and choose what he says.

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While I'm sure not all Obama supporters are certified members of Mensa and may not have an intimate knowledge of Obama's policy and administration, I have never heard such downright fantasy as these inebriates are spouting coming from the mouth of a democrat.
Well as I said previously, Nancy Pelosi did call people who protested about Tax ****'s as well as some of his supporters queing up in Detroit a couple of weeks ago as they though he was going to hand them out a check.

clarence worley 04.12.2009 12:02 PM

Glenn Beck comes out with plenty of irrational conspiracy theories and fear mongering himself..he doesn't need any help from these muppets in regard to spouting nonsense.

Personally I agree with Government health care. Does it have it's flaws, most certainly, however I am lucky and in the position where myself and my girlfriend have and can afford private health care however others are less fortunate. However I cannot comprehend the mentality of a nation that can throw billions (potentially trillions) on what is conceivably an unwinnable war, yet will happily see it's poor and elderly suffer in silence.

Vincent 04.12.2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by clarence worley (Post 1034394)
Personally I agree with Government health care. Does it have it's flaws, most certainly, however I am lucky and in the position where myself and my girlfriend have and can afford private health care however others are less fortunate. However I cannot comprehend the mentality of a nation that can throw billions (potentially trillions) on what is conceivably an unwinnable war, yet will happily see it's poor and elderly suffer in silence.



A decent provision for the poor is the true test of civilization.
~Samuel Johnson, Boswell: Life of Johnson


"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " ~ Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey

"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi


"Any society, any nation, is judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members -- the last, the least, the littlest."
~Cardinal Roger Mahony, In a 1998 letter, Creating a Culture of Life


"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members and among the most vulnerable are surely the unborn and the dying,"
~Pope John Paul II

clarence worley 04.12.2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jrvincent1 (Post 1034397)
A decent provision for the poor is the true test of civilization.
~Samuel Johnson, Boswell: Life of Johnson


"...the moral test of government is how that government treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the elderly; those who are in the shadows of life; the sick, the needy and the handicapped. " ~ Last Speech of Hubert H. Humphrey

"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi


"Any society, any nation, is judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members -- the last, the least, the littlest."
~Cardinal Roger Mahony, In a 1998 letter, Creating a Culture of Life


"A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members and among the most vulnerable are surely the unborn and the dying,"
~Pope John Paul II

Very true my friend...however some in so called civilized societies cannot comprehend the basic values of what makes us human.

vann_mcelroy 04.12.2009 12:51 PM

Americans will always be deathly scared of the word " Socialism" thier definition of it is just a little bit narrower than we get here in Europe.

clarence worley 04.12.2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by vann_mcelroy (Post 1034423)
Americans will always be deathly scared of the word " Socialism" thier definition of it is just a little bit narrower than we get here in Europe.

Especially when it concerns Obama, who lest we forget also manages to be a Muslim, Hitler loving socialist all at the same time!;) Surprised some of the demonstrators did not also hold him responsible for aliens invading in ID4 and creating the monster in Cloverfield.

Mark_Duper 04.12.2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jack1 (Post 1033309)
Good move IMO, you have to be in it to win it, although it will most likely end in us leaving a dictator in place who supports the West.

Yes and what will that dictator that supports the west enable?

Of course the trans-afghanistan pipeline to take oil from Turkmenistan that will run through the north of the country.

And people still continue with the same rhetoric about the Taliban threat to the West and the need to safeguard our streets from future terrorists. The 'Oil' is the main reason its always the main reason for most wars.


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