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Old 17.02.2017, 09:29 PM
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Default Bears QB Situation in 2017

Sorry if this is a long winded reply but hopefully I might make enough sense for it to be worthwhile

Cutler is as good as gone I think. You can make arguments that we may not be able to better the position by getting rid of him but lets be honest, its not worked out as well as anyone had hoped and by parting ways we'll open up even more salary cap room and allow ourselves to address other important positions (Secondary anyone???)

Now for the options going forward.... I see 2 real options here. 1 - We trade for someone or 2 - We draft someone early and bring in a serviceable FA QB to hold the fort for a season or 2 as we nurture our future QB. (OK there is option 3 of finding the long term starter in FA but that seems unlikely. Cousins probably won't leave Washington and if he does he's likely to follow Shanahan to SF. Glennon you can argue for but lets be frank, he's played ok but he hasn't started in quite some time. If Tyrod Taylor gets cut then I guess he could make this a more viable option. Also I guess if Landry Jones is a UFA not an RFA as I think he might be then he's an option).

In option 1 you have to look at the possible trade options... All the talk is of trading for Jimmy Garroppolo from New England but there is a few real sticking points with this. Firstly, New England are in no dire need to trade him. Sure he probably walks away for a big contract next off season but right now he offers an excellent insurance policy should Brady get injured next year and they probably still stand a good chance at a Superbowl run. Unless of course they REALLY like Jacoby Brissett? Secondly if they do trade its likely the QB graveyard known as Cleveland will definitely make a run at him. Simply put, Pace isn't going to throw our 3rd overall pick to get Jimmy G but Cleveland have 2 1st rounders, they can throw the #12 pick overall at New England still pick up an impact player like Garrett at #1 . You also have to look at Jimmys small body of work, exceptional as it was, and the history of NE backups away from the Belichick bosom. That being said, I think I'd be happy if we threw the 2nd rounder to get him. I think he's probably a better QB at this stage than anyone leaving the draft.
The other trade option is Tony Romo. He wants to go to a winning franchise with a post season shot which puts us a way down the queue and , more importantly, he is worse than Jay at staying on the field.
AJ McCarron is getting a few mentions as a possible trade worthy player, and Landry Jones I think is an RFA so we could tender a higher offer than the Steelers to try and get him. Neither guy has done a lot wrong but I'll admit I'm not 100% sold on either option.

If we did go this route though I'd like us to bring back Barkley. He showed he's not the future QB of the franchise but he showed enough to suggest he could be a reliable back up should you need to call on him. I also think, regardless of how we play the starting situation, Connor Shaw will be back next year for camp at least, the coaches and management apparently loved what they saw of him before the leg break.

Option 2 - Draft our future guy. Well, whilst there is some undoubted talent this year at QB, I don't see any of them as a day 1 starter. I'd want them all to sit at least a year and learn the game. (Its worth pointing out that this was also my view on Dak last year and he defied my logic so I could easily be wrong). Heres my thoughts on a few of the major QB players in the draft.
Mitch Trubisky - Talented kid, could turn out to be the best of this class without doubt. All the tools are there. Problem being he has only 1 year of starting in college. His reads can be naive at times and I think he panics a little under pressure (Solomon Thomas had him panicking in the bowl game). I say he needs 2 seasons of sitting probably.
DeShone Kizer - Love his arm talent and he makes some awesome throws and reads at times. He is however erratic. He wasn't helped by being on a poor team of course but he, again, isn't great under pressure. I think he's probably closer to being ready than Mitch with a similar talent ceiling. Probably just needs to sit for a year.
DeShaun Watson - Not the best 2016 (except the championship game!) by his standards but he does look a solid prospect overall. Possibly the most pro ready? Some say Kizer but I lean toward Watson, he's been in the bigger games, faced borderline pro standards D's when playing Bama and done good things. I do think he can be a little careless though with the ball and that needs sorting out.
Pat Mahomes - Someone is going to reach for this kid. He has a cannon of an arm, great passion for the game and is apparently a superb leader. He's not always the most accurate and he will force throws when pressured. This however is the least of the problems with Pat. Texas Tech Air Raid offense is barely even a scheme let alone one anywhere near a pro system. He's going to need A LOT of teaching in terms of plays, reading D's, commanding a huddle... the works. Also holding the ball for up to 6 seconds waiting for your receivers to find space 40 yards downfield will generally get you creamed in the NFL.
Brad Kaaya - Talented and able but is so shaky under pressure its a genuine concern. Once seen at maybe the 2nd best QB in this draft, many places now think he may slip to the 3rd-4th round.
Davis Webb - Picking up steam among scouts lately but he's barely been a starter 5 minutes and he also comes from the same system that gave us a remarkably unpro ready Jared Goff. He'll need at least a year of sitting and learning. Even then I'm not convinced he'll be a long term starter in the league.
A wildcard choice... Nate Peterman - Generally seen as a backup in the pros by a lot of scouts, I actually find him intriguing. Pitt run a pro friendly offense. He has adequate, if less than spectacular physical skills, and he seems a smart leader. He'll likely not be a perennial Pro Bowler granted, but if the Bears want to run a more Run orientated offense (lets face it, we've generally been a better team when we have) I think he could be a little like Kyle Orton. Also worth noting, the Bears coaches had him at the Senior Bowl (where he was generally seen as the best QB there) so if we draft him, you can bet they really liked what they saw.

Draft any of these guys and we need caretaker to lead the team for a season or 2. My preferred choice would be to find a way to bring Hoyer back. He was solid for us, kept mistakes to a minimum. Whilst he didn't exactly put us in consistent positions to win, he sure as hell wasn't jeopardising the games for us either . He's also said he'd be happy as a caretaker and tutor for a young QB.

Other than that options could be Glennon or Foles (Kansas City aren't going to take that 2nd year option...$10m for a backup???). Both would do a decent job I think in the short term at least. Fitzpatrick will want bigger money and was a turnover machine so he's out for me. Case Keenum has been suggested some places but he was a disaster zone last year. I know I'll get lambasted by this but I am at least intrigued by Geno Smith. Before he got his jaw broken he was in line to win the Jets start job back and there were promising signs he MAY have turned the corner. Alas I fear he's probably damaged goods that may be beyond repair now.

I guess if I was to be pinned down to pick my 2 favourite scenarios they would be:

Hoyer
Trubisky
Shaw

or

Garroppolo
Barkley
Shaw

But there are probably a few scenarios I'd be ok with. For example, if we got Glennon, maybe we take Peterman in the 3rd round. That way we have a reasonable talent, at a low risk pick, to try and nurture should Glennon not pan out, yet if Glennon does well, he's young enough to play for a good few more years and as a 3rd rounder, fans wouldn't constantly be calling for Peterman every time Glennon has a wobbly game

I'll stop babbling now!!
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