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Old 15.04.2019, 09:05 PM
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I'd love to know what Al Davis made of Millen ringing him like that. He must have thought Millen was trying to play him, because he definitely would have been if the roles were reversed.

Also, what the hell was Millen doing ringing him in any case?
My thoughts exactly! He probably thought Al would see it as a bluff too. 'I'll show Millen!..... '

Quite wierd really considering Al's love of receiving freaks like Johnson (admittedly Russell could fling a ball 70+ yards too).

Would've been great to see how things played out with CJ a Raider and Peterson a Lion.
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2008. Another lacklustre top 10 (well, 4-9 anyway), and the Pats pay for 'Spygate' (but still draft 2 All-Pro's).

2008 Top 10:

1. Miami Dolphins: Jake Long, OT. Michigan.
2. St Louis Rams: Chris Long, DE. Virginia.
3. Atlanta Falcons: Matt Ryan, QB. Boston College.
4. Oakland Raiders: Darren McFadden, RB. Arkansas.
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Glenn Dorsey, DT. LSU.
6. New York Jets: Vernon Gholston, DE. Ohio State.
7. New Orleans Saints: Sedrick Ellis, DT. USC.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Derrick Harvey, DE. Florida.
9. Cincinnati Bengals: Keith Rivers, LB. USC.
10. New England Patriots: Jerod Mayo, LB. Tennessee.

Notable 1st round picks outside the top 10:

12. Denver Broncos: Ryan Clady.
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Aqib Talib, CB. Kansas.
24. Tennessee Titans: Chris Johnson, RB. East Carolina.

Notable Picks:

36. Green Bay Packers: Jordy Nelson, WR. Kansas State.
44. Chicago Bears: Matt Forte, RB. Tulane.
49. Philadelphia Eagles: Desean Jackson, WR. California.
50. Arizona Cardinals: Calais Campbell, DE. Miami (FL).
73. Kansas City Chiefs: Jamaal Charles, RB. Texas.
92. Detroit Lions: Cliff Avril, DE. Purdue.
135: Green Bay Packers: Josh Sitton, G. Central Florida.
153: New England Patriots: Matthew Slater, WR. UCLA.
164: New Orleans Saints: Carl Nicks, OT. Nebraska.
187. Minnesota Vikings: John Sullivan, C. Notre Dame.

Notable UDFA:

Dallas Cowboys: Danny Amendola, WR. Texas Tech.
Denver Broncos: Brett Kern, P. Toledo.
New York Jets: Danny Woodhead, RB. Chadron State.
San Diego Chargers: Mike Tolbert, FB. Coastal Carolina.
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Old 16.04.2019, 09:18 AM
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Ooft, not great. Gholston was one of our all time busts (which is saying something) and we let Woodhead get away. Keller and Lowery were solid enough, but that was it.
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Old 16.04.2019, 09:35 AM
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Cowboys had 2 1st round picks in 2008...….and basically came out of it with Orlando Scandrick.
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Old 16.04.2019, 09:39 AM
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Vikings traded their 1st and three other picks to acquire Jared Allen from the Chiefs. Didn’t turn out too badly for them...
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Old 16.04.2019, 10:45 AM
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I knew it already of course but listing these drafts as you have really illustrates why we spent so long in the doldrums. Huff, Russell and McFadden?

My God...
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I knew it already of course but listing these drafts as you have really illustrates why we spent so long in the doldrums. Huff, Russell and McFadden?

My God...
It is a little crazy when you see these teams, perennially picking in the top 10, coming away with bad pick after bad pick.

Raiders: Phillip Buchanon (17), Napoleon Harris (23), Asomugha (31), Tyler Brayton (32), Gallery (2), Washington (23), Huff (7), Russell (1), McFadden (4)...…………

Jaguars: Henderson (9), Leftwich (7), Reggie Williams (9), Matt Jones (21), Marcedes Lewis (28), Reggie Nelson (21), Derrick Harvey (8)...….

Lions: Joey Harrington (3), Charles Rogers (2), Roy Williams (7), Kevin Jones (30), Mike Williams (10), Ernie Sims (9), Calvin Johnson (2), Gosder Cherilus (17)……..

........and i'm sure there are plenty more teams too. When you look at Draft history, and I've thought this for a while, sometimes you are better off picking at #11-20 rather than the top 10. (Obviously not, but teams in the top 10 do a really bad job of talent evaluation.)
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Ooft, not great. Gholston was one of our all time busts (which is saying something) and we let Woodhead get away. Keller and Lowery were solid enough, but that was it.
has a defensive end man ever been drafted that high and finished his career with zero sacks???

even though the league stole our 1st round pick we still did ok with the pick we got from the 49ers for giving up the 22nd pick the year before.Mayo was a solid pro.
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Old 16.04.2019, 06:27 PM
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has a defensive end man ever been drafted that high and finished his career with zero sacks???

even though the league stole our 1st round pick we still did ok with the pick we got from the 49ers for giving up the 22nd pick the year before.Mayo was a solid pro.
Not that I know of, even Dion Jordan has had one or two...
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Old 17.04.2019, 10:55 AM
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2009.

2009 Top 10:

1. Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB. Georgia.
2. St Louis Rams: Jason Smith, OT. Baylor.
3. Kansas City Chiefs: Tyson Jackson, DE. LSU.
4. Seattle Seahawks: Aaron Curry, LB. Wake Forest.
5. New York Jets: Mark Sanchez, QB. USC.
6. Cincinnati Bengals: Andre Smith, OT. Alabama.
7. Oakland Raiders: Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR. Maryland.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Eugene Monroe, OT. Virginia.
9. Green Bay Packers: BJ Raji, DT. Boston College.
10. San Francisco 49ers: Michael Crabtree, WR. Texas Tech.

Notable 1st round picks outside the top 10:

14. New Orleans Saints: Malcolm Jenkins, CB. Ohio State.
15. Houston Texans: Brian Cushing, LB. USC.
21. Cleveland Browns: Alex Mack, C. California.
26. Green Bay Packers: Clay Matthews, LB. USC.

Notable Picks:

42. Buffalo Bills: Jarius Byrd, S. Oregon.
49. Seattle Seahawks: Max Unger, C. Oregon.
53. Philadelphia Eagles: LeSean McCoy, RB. Pittsburgh.
84. Pittsburgh Steelers: Mike Wallace, WR. Ole Miss.
109. Green Bay Packers: TJ Lang, OT. Eastern Michigan.
112. Houston Texans: Glover Quinn, S. New Mexico.
142. Cincinnati Bengals: Kevin Huber, P. Cincinnati.
164. New Orleans Saints: Thomas Morstead, P. SMU.
203. Tennessee Titans: Jason McCourty, CB. Rutgers.
222. Indianapolis Colts: Pat McAfee, P. West Virginia.
232. New England Patriots: Julian Edelman, WR. Kent State.
256. Kansas City Chiefs: Ryan Succop, K. South Carolina.

Notable UDFA:

Baltimore Ravens: Graham Gano, K. Florida State.
Denver Broncos: Britton Colquitt, P. Tennessee.
Houston Texans: Arian Foster, RB. Tennessee.
Pittsburgh Steelers: Ramon Foster, G. Tennessee.
Seattle Seahawks: Michael Bennett, DT. Texas A&M.
Washington Redskins: Chase Daniel, QB. Missouri.


What an horrendous top 10. To be fair, the rest of the Draft wasn't much better.

The Cowboys Draft in 2009 was terrible, but at least they picked the right year to do it in.

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