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Old 06.07.2015, 07:49 PM
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Last year we went with 9 O Linemen, and 11 Def linemen so i expect much the same this year, the list i saw today had Gibson as bu LT with Weems and Chaz Green bu RTs-no mention of Collins at all! surely he has to make the 53? my OL would be the 5 from last year obviously, Bernabeau makes 6 Collins 7 Weems as the swinger makes 8 then either Gibson or Green its a shame talented players like Dill and Fortenberry look like missing out although they can still make the practice squad of course-also do we need a long snapper? can Frederick not fill in this roll? saving a roster place? also we went with 5 safetys but i think with Jones we might go 4 ?
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Last year we went with 9 O Linemen, and 11 Def linemen so i expect much the same this year, the list i saw today had Gibson as bu LT with Weems and Chaz Green bu RTs-no mention of Collins at all! surely he has to make the 53? my OL would be the 5 from last year obviously, Bernabeau makes 6 Collins 7 Weems as the swinger makes 8 then either Gibson or Green its a shame talented players like Dill and Fortenberry look like missing out although they can still make the practice squad of course-also do we need a long snapper? can Frederick not fill in this roll? saving a roster place? also we went with 5 safetys but i think with Jones we might go 4 ?
Long Snapper is a pretty specialised position, plus I don't think putting Frederick in there would be the smartest of moves. How would you feel if you lost your All Pro center to injury whilst filling the role of long snapper? I don't doubt Frederick could do it, but he'd have to devote extra time in practice to it, plus take more snaps in a game. It just isn't worth it.

As for the bigger picture - I expect Collins will be a back up Guard. Based on nothing other than his draft status and draft reports, they probably try to get Gibson on to the Practice Squad. Dill and Fortenberry might have drawn praise from the media at camp, but just bare in mind the expectation levels for these guys are a little lower. Not to say they didn't play well, but when the expectation is less it's easier to impress.

LT - Tyron Smith (Weems)
LG - Ron Leary (Collins)
C - Travis Frederick (Berandeau)
RG - Zach Martin (Berandeau)
RT - Doug Free (Green)

The very fact they rotate on the D line means they'll try to carry more D linemen than O linemen. They will lose an intriguing D line guy to another team when all this shakes out because they can't keep them all. Hardy, Lawrence, Crawford, Gregory, Mincey, Hayden, McClain, Gardner, Russell, Bishop, that's 10. 6 DE's, 4 DT's. Of the other 6 D linemen currently on the roster I'd say Jack Crawford might make it as he can slide inside. That would be 11.

RE - Hardy (Mincey, Gregory)
1DT - Hayden (McClain, Bishop)
3DT - Crawford (J.Crawford)
LE -Lawrence (Gardner, Russell)

When it comes to Safety I think you have to keep Special Teams in mind. Danny McCray was brought back with that thought. To be honest, you look at the roster and they only have 4 guys anyway. Church and Wilcox as starters, then Heath and McCray. Like you said, it depends how you view Byron Jones. At Corner you have Scandrick, Carr, Jones, Patmon, Corey White and Mo, and you can't really count Mo at this stage. That would be 9 DB's, 10 with Mo.

Church (Heath)
Wilcox (McCray)

Scandrick
Carr
Jones

White
Patmon
Claibourne

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Yeah its probably asking too much of Frederick to rumble downfield on every punt! he weighs about 70lb more than the long snapper besides which LP Ladouceur is a loyal Cowboy with 10 years service AND a pro bowler, and heres me trying to get him off the roster...ashamed of myself-mans a hero
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I think i might be tempted to go with 7 linebackers bearing in mind Lees injury and Maclains tendency to get wacked out of the tree at any time There is still talk of a running back-i,d love to see us get Tre Mason seeing as how he will be warming the bench when the star rookie starts cant see it tho, looks like were stuck, unless we see what the Jets cut- they have 5 potential starters and will prob cut 2-maybe Zac Stacey ?.......the plot thickens
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I think i might be tempted to go with 7 linebackers bearing in mind Lees injury and Maclains tendency to get wacked out of the tree at any time There is still talk of a running back-i,d love to see us get Tre Mason seeing as how he will be warming the bench when the star rookie starts cant see it tho, looks like were stuck, unless we see what the Jets cut- they have 5 potential starters and will prob cut 2-maybe Zac Stacey ?.......the plot thickens
To be honest, when I look at the roster I see only 3 linebackers I could say for certain will be on the roster. Lee, Hitchens, Wilson. McClain probably will because of the way they structured his contract. Gachkar was brought in as a special teamer, so he has a good chance of sticking. Kyle Wilbur has always hung around, and they brought in Brinkley. Outside of those first 3 though, and maybe Gachkar, I wouldn't say anyone is 'safe'.

Running back is a case of wait and see. We won't get anyone markedly better than Randle. Unless Jerry is all in on this year then I don't see a trade. Jerry is all in every year I suppose, but for what it would take to get someone like Tre Mason I don't think they'd pull the trigger. No, at this stage I think it's a case of live by your decisions. They let Murray go. They didn't draft a back. Now we'll see if what we have in house, or re-treads from elsewhere, is enough to get the job done.
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They seem to like Lucky Whitehead as a return guy which would mean only one reciever space for grabs.
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Not much chance of Obada making the roster i dont think with the seemingly wealth of Dline talent, hope he makes the practice squad tho and the coaches seem to like him
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They seem to like Lucky Whitehead as a return guy which would mean only one reciever space for grabs.
Yep, still a long time to go yet though. Sometimes the Cowboys media get it wrong too. 99% of the time they get it right, but sometimes they get it wrong. They liked Will Smith, the LB, last year. He turned into nothing.

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Not much chance of Obada making the roster i dont think with the seemingly wealth of Dline talent, hope he makes the practice squad tho and the coaches seem to like him
I think the guy got hyped up, especially over here, due to the London links. If he makes the practice squad he'll have done well. If not, he seems to have given it a good shot, and it will stand him in good stead wherever he plays the game.
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Good luck to him hes had a tough life, i like it when the american media respect the "outsiders" maybe if he had played in college he would have a better chance, still might make it yet, needs to beef up a bit i think hes more of a linebackers weight than an end, but like you say long way to go yet
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I,m thinking some teams with a lack of depth on the o line might be looking at Dallas to see whos out to be gobbled up....
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