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[quote author=olig23 link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902054 date=1212144641]
Actually, thinking about it there is one huge issue that Rex has which is totally his own weakness... cocking up the snap and fumbling the ball ???
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I thought that was a problem with Kreutz? Except no-one else really had that problem last year, so probably not.
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[quote author=Jerome Neil link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902090 date=1212147205]
[quote author=olig23 link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902054 date=1212144641]
Actually, thinking about it there is one huge issue that Rex has which is totally his own weakness... cocking up the snap and fumbling the ball ???
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I thought that was a problem with Kreutz? Except no-one else really had that problem last year, so probably not.
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It happens to Rex far too much to blame anyone else especially given that Kreutz has been at ceter for a long while now
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[quote author=Jerome Neil link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902090 date=1212147205]
[quote author=olig23 link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902054 date=1212144641]
Actually, thinking about it there is one huge issue that Rex has which is totally his own weakness... cocking up the snap and fumbling the ball ???
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I thought that was a problem with Kreutz? Except no-one else really had that problem last year, so probably not.
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I imagine Kreutz may put it on him self to take pressure off Rex, but for me it is simply that Rex struggles to take in the huge amount of pre-snap checks/info. Which on a broader topic is part of why Rex looked worse last year after being over coached, Favre is great because he uses his natural instincts. Rex is the same way I feel (but not in the same class obviously.)
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[quote author=payton3434 link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902097 date=1212147720]
[quote author=Jerome Neil link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902090 date=1212147205]
[quote author=olig23 link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902054 date=1212144641]
Actually, thinking about it there is one huge issue that Rex has which is totally his own weakness... cocking up the snap and fumbling the ball ???
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I thought that was a problem with Kreutz? Except no-one else really had that problem last year, so probably not.
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I imagine Kreutz may put it on him self to take pressure off Rex, but for me it is simply that Rex struggles to take in the huge amount of pre-snap checks/info. Which on a broader topic is part of why Rex looked worse last year after being over coached, Favre is great because he uses his natural instincts. Rex is the same way I feel (but not in the same class obviously.)
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Agreed. Rex is a bit of a gunslinger and there are some similarities they both play well when they are feeling in the game. I just think Favre had some kind of innate confidence that meant nothing ever fazed him which is what set him apart, his arm wasn't too shabby either mind.
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Old 30.05.2008, 12:01 PM
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[quote author=olig23 link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902105 date=1212148298]
[quote author=payton3434 link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902097 date=1212147720]
[quote author=Jerome Neil link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902090 date=1212147205]
[quote author=olig23 link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902054 date=1212144641]
Actually, thinking about it there is one huge issue that Rex has which is totally his own weakness... cocking up the snap and fumbling the ball ???
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I thought that was a problem with Kreutz? Except no-one else really had that problem last year, so probably not.
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I imagine Kreutz may put it on him self to take pressure off Rex, but for me it is simply that Rex struggles to take in the huge amount of pre-snap checks/info. Which on a broader topic is part of why Rex looked worse last year after being over coached, Favre is great because he uses his natural instincts. Rex is the same way I feel (but not in the same class obviously.)
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Agreed. Rex is a bit of a gunslinger and there are some similarities they both play well when they are feeling in the game. I just think Favre had some kind of innate confidence that meant nothing ever fazed him which is what set him apart, his arm wasn't too shabby either mind.
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Still, it's alot harder for Rex considering he's in a much more hostile environment.
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Brian Urlacher to attend mandatory three-day minicamp:

Brian Urlacher will attend the Bears' mandatory three-day mini-camp starting Friday, he told the Tribune on Thursday evening.

Urlacher has missed all of the team's voluntary off-season activities to this point because of a contract dispute. He has been lobbying for more money than the Bears offered in a one-year extension. The deal was believed to include $5 million up front, and $1 million added to his base salary per season in each season he participated in 85 percent of the snaps.

The extension through 2012 also was believed to include a base salary of $7.5 million in its final season. If Urlacher remains active that long, the Bears likely would rework the figure.

Urlacher signed a nine-year, $57 million deal in 2003 that included up to $19 million in bonuses. He has spent the majority of his time in Arizona the last few months rehabbing from minor neck surgery and spending time with his children.

By the attending the mini-camp, Urlacher will avoid being fined the maximum of $8,165, per the collective bargaining agreement.

Fellow linebacker Lance Briggs was certain Urlacher would be absent come Friday. Briggs was prepared to wear Urlacher's No. 54 jersey as a show of support.

"I'm surprised, but it's a happy surprised," Briggs said Thursday. "It's good to have your big brother back.

"I don't think this thing should have got to the point where it is right now. Brian needs to be taken care of, period. He's irreplaceable."

Although Urlacher will rejoin his teammates, his campaign for more money probably isn't over. And he isn't the only Bear looking for a new deal.

Defensive tackle Tommie Harris and return specialist Devin Hester are also seeking new contracts.

Urlacher, who battled through an arthritic condition in his back last season, still led the Bears with 123 tackles and had a team-high five interceptions along with five sacks.

The Bears had no comment on Urlacher's status Thursday.

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News from the Training Camp (its good!):

As reported, Brian Urlacher is back on the practice field with his teammates despite his contract dispute. The linebacker has participated in all the early drills here at mini-camp alongside first-teamers Lance Briggs and Hunter Hillenmeyer. Devin Hester and Tommie Harris are dressed and on the field too while in the middle of contract talks.

Also, defensive lineman Dan Bazuin, who had his rookie year cut short by a knee injury, is on the field participating on special teams.

The only player missing from today's first day is Gerard Lee, an undrafted rookie free agent from Oregon State. School is still in session for the defensive end.

Kyle Orton continues to take the snaps with the first-team offense.

Receiver Mark Bradley is on the sideline but not participating after having his knee scoped.
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[quote author=olig23 link=board=1;threadid=5453;start=1755#msg902053 date=1212144520]
Rex did play well for much of 06 and I am sure that cannot be a fluke because it lasted more than half of a season. The main issue with Rex is confidence. I don't think he is very good under pressure and that is a good quality in a QB. However, I also look at Tony Romo who is undoubtedly a good QB and he is not that good in big pressure situations either so there is always hope. I do feel that the ability to play ell under pressure is what sets the greats aprt from the rest, Brady is ice cold under pressure like Favre was although in a different way. Things just didn't woory Favre because he has supreme confidence, Manning and Brady are super prepared. I think Rex would be a solid QB if he was in say Bulger's situation in St Louis which is why its difficult to rate QBs because much depends on the o-line and the ability to run the ball. However, if you put Derek Anderson in the Bears offence he would be far worse than Rex for me. Edwards and Winslow were totally immense last year and their line is rapidly becoming one of the elite in the league, yet he still had the most INTs. Bulger is another good example once the line went down Bulger did nothing but I will guarentee his performances improve once Pace is on the field. If you were to look around the league and say which QBs have the arm and ability to do well in the right team I fancy Grossman, Delhomme, and Jason Campbell would show they are good QBs. I really don't think the differance between a lot of QBs is as pronounced as it often seems. Take away Walter jones from Seattle and Hasselbeck would suffer, same for Bulger and Brees's development conincided with Gates appearing and the o-line improving then in NO he has two of the most underrated lineman in the league in Jammal Brown and Jahari Evans. There are not many QBs who would fail to be productive with good players around them at receiver and on the o-line. For me Leinart needs to show improvement more than grossman because he has no excuse.
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I agree there isn't much between alot of the Qb's in the league and I think this is done to the mediocrity at the position. With the exception of Manning, Brady, McNabb, Palmer the rest are fairly ordinary and I'm not sure if the standard of college QB's has dropped in recent years.
You look at Matt Ryan a alot of people think he is going to struggle despite his obvious talent and leadership in college. I think he will be more succesful than people think.
Rex needs to cut out the stupid mistakes ( fumbles) he suffers. Some of the INT can be attributed to poor route running - I know Berrian has been guilty of that from time to time. My concern is that Turner is able to evelop him and improve him within the offense. I'm surprised they kept Turner after last season - he has alot to prove this season.
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Old 31.05.2008, 11:19 AM
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His playbook is far too simple. You can have a pretty good guess of what play is coming up next and if the fans can do it i'm pretty sure Ray Lewis can realise whats going on.

Hopefully we will do some more interesting things next season and use Wolfe properly to actually give the guy a chance.
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Old 31.05.2008, 11:32 AM
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His playbook is far too simple. You can have a pretty good guess of what play is coming up next and if the fans can do it i'm pretty sure Ray Lewis can realise whats going on.

Hopefully we will do some more interesting things next season and use Wolfe properly to actually give the guy a chance.
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And how exactly would you like Wolfe to be used, then?
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