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Old 14.07.2011, 02:14 PM
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The Northeast and Illinois are where professional football was mainly originated so that is why these areas have more ties to there professional teams than there college ones. And then the southern states who did not have professional teams and still dont for the most part have huge college football traditions like the SEC is life and death in the south. Big Ten is big in the midwest but for many schools that have to compete with professional teams to get fans to come to games since most fans can only afford one or the other. And then a state like Iowa they attract huge crowds because like the south they have nothing else. And California schools like UCLA cant attract large crowds because they play on the west coast and the west coast is a bunch of libral grinola eatting p u ss y s
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a big factor is where the game is played at the grassroots level... there are a lot of football fans in the midwest (Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan all average 100k +, Wisconsin, MSU, Nebraska, Iowa sell out frequently as well... even the other Big Ten schools besides Northwestern and Indiana do fairly well at the gate)

the game just isn't played as heavily there at the youth level. Basketball is very big in the Northeast and Midwest as well (the Big Ten is the highest drawing basketball league in the nation in terms of average fans per game, and has been since they started keeping track in the 80's).

Speaking from a state of Illinois perspective:

Basketball is huge, especially in the city of Chicago and in Peoria, which is the largest city downstate. The city of Chicago itself doesn't produce many good football teams, the coaching is poor and players who do tend to be good aren't typically on good teams (which means they need more work). If you follow the Big Ten or University of Illinois much, you saw this with Juice Williams.... athletic freak, but came from a losing high school program nad never had a good coach.... the opposite is happening with the current QB, Nate Scheelhaase, who is talented but not quite as athletically gifted, but frankly will be a much better QB in the end.

If you look at the 16 teams that made the 8 State Championship games last year, only 1 team was from the City of Chicago (and they lost) and hte upper divisions (schools with over 800 students/200 per class) are dominated by suburban teams. Basketball is just the opposite, schools from the City of Chicago (and inner city schools downstate from time to time, especially peoria) dominate.



Loyalties are very split. 2/3rds of the state population lives in the Chicago Metro area, which is at the border with Wisconsin and Indiana. As mentioned above, South Bend (Notre Dame) isn't far from chicago (and is hugely popular in the city (lot of traditionally Irish working class neighborhoods on teh south side of the city, just watch Rudy)

Wisconsin is a really damn good university and is ranked nationally and internationally with or a bit above the University of Illinois, depending on the rankings lists, and Madison is a fantastic city (I love Champaign/Urbana, but frankly Madison is awesome, as much as it pains me)... so a lot of kids who grow up in teh Suburbs want to go there.

Iowa is a good school in its own right, but Iowa City has a reputation as a party school and as a backup school for kids who don't get into Illinois and don't want to go to Illinois State or Northern Illinois or one of the other state schools. You see a LOT of Illinois license plates in Iowa City when school is in session, and they get a lot of fan support in Chicago as well.

so the University of Illinois has a lot of trouble locking down Chicagoland. ... as does any one school for that matter.

There is talent in-state, but no where near as much as southern states where the best kids don't play basketball (or both for that matter, winter is mild and just an opportunity to practice football more)
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Iowa is a good school in its own right, but Iowa City has a reputation as a party school and as a backup school for kids who don't get into Illinois and don't want to go to Illinois State or Northern Illinois or one of the other state schools. You see a LOT of Illinois license plates in Iowa City when school is in session, and they get a lot of fan support in Chicago as well.

I did hear this when in America. Two Alumni from Iowa State were ripping into the Hawkeyes educational reputation.

Thanks for the write up very informative.
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Don't forget in NY they also have West Point which has a huge football following. I try to go every so often as they play only 45 mins from my house.
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