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Old 08.09.2008, 01:35 PM
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[quote author=dejan tomic link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946763 date=1220880672]
a traditional 4:3 type tv.
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Well then its going to look normal because a 4:3 feed going to a 4:3 tv doesn't need to stretch anything.

Mark on the other hand has a Widescreen 16:9 HD Ready TV
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[quote author=RAIDER12 link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946678 date=1220876329]
Scratching my head on this one. My HD tv is fine and teh players don't look short and fat. Just glad I am not technologicaly advanced.



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I dont get all this tech speak. . I have a Sony Bravia 32" LCD HD ready TV and it all looks fine so I am ok. .not sure what all the fuss is about but then I dont do tech. . .lol :P
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Old 08.09.2008, 01:40 PM
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[quote author=UKColts link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946727 date=1220879302]
There is no reason (if SKY) have the studio/equipment available they cant take the HD feed and downcovert it...like they do for NASCAR.
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The last time I looked, NASCAR wasn't in 16:9, although it might have been the NASN stuff I saw!! :-\ However the Daytona 500 was in HD. I suspect Sky have a policy of only showing premium events in HD probably due to cost.

As for 24, it was filmed on 35mm film in 16:9 which will easily yield a HD picture. Although at the time FOX didn't broadcast in HD, as I recall FOX didn't start broadcasting HDTV until 2004!
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Old 08.09.2008, 01:43 PM
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[quote author=UKColts link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946727 date=1220879302]If their red button games are 4:3 only they can broadcast them in 16:9 frame with black bars or animated or mirror effect 'curtains'' down the sides (like they've done before for other sports).[/quote]

Thank goodness they do not. If you want to see black bars on the sides then press the appropriate button on your remote control. That choice already exists, it should not be up to Sky to force viewers with widescreen TVs to watch it that way when they may prefer to see it stretched, justified, or cropped.

The only time Sky (or anyone else) shows content in that fashion is when they are showing 4:3 content within a programme that is natively in widescreen. There the only alternative is to crop the footage to fit, but this is rarely done for obvious reasons.

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Old 08.09.2008, 01:46 PM
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[quote author=syborg link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946771 date=1220881198]
[quote author=RAIDER12 link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946678 date=1220876329]
Scratching my head on this one. My HD tv is fine and teh players don't look short and fat. Just glad I am not technologicaly advanced.



Mark
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I dont get all this tech speak. . I have a Sony Bravia 32" LCD HD ready TV and it all looks fine so I am ok. .not sure what all the fuss is about but then I dont do tech. . .lol :P
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Watch MNF on Sky Sports tonight. I'm sure you'll notice a difference
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Old 08.09.2008, 03:02 PM
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[quote author=Smeknamn link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946776 date=1220881390]
[quote author=UKColts link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946727 date=1220879302]If their red button games are 4:3 only they can broadcast them in 16:9 frame with black bars or animated or mirror effect 'curtains'' down the sides (like they've done before for other sports).[/quote]

Thank goodness they do not. If you want to see black bars on the sides then press the appropriate button on your remote control. That choice already exists, it should not be up to Sky to force viewers with widescreen TVs to watch it that way when they may prefer to see it stretched, justified, or cropped.

The only time Sky (or anyone else) shows content in that fashion is when they are showing 4:3 content within a programme that is natively in widescreen. There the only alternative is to crop the footage to fit, but this is rarely done for obvious reasons.

Michael.
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I do always alter my tv to watch them in the correct aspect ratio....my point was that if they only had widescreen feeds for say the 2 main games they should use them even if it means the red button games have to be shown with sidebars (unless they can have a mixture of aspect ratios on interactive?). Obviously this isn't an issue for SNF/MNF when there is just one game.
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Old 08.09.2008, 04:17 PM
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[quote author=UKColts link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946857 date=1220886163]
[quote author=Smeknamn link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946776 date=1220881390]
[quote author=UKColts link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946727 date=1220879302]If their red button games are 4:3 only they can broadcast them in 16:9 frame with black bars or animated or mirror effect 'curtains'' down the sides (like they've done before for other sports).[/quote]

Thank goodness they do not. If you want to see black bars on the sides then press the appropriate button on your remote control. That choice already exists, it should not be up to Sky to force viewers with widescreen TVs to watch it that way when they may prefer to see it stretched, justified, or cropped.

The only time Sky (or anyone else) shows content in that fashion is when they are showing 4:3 content within a programme that is natively in widescreen. There the only alternative is to crop the footage to fit, but this is rarely done for obvious reasons.

Michael.
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I do always alter my tv to watch them in the correct aspect ratio....my point was that if they only had widescreen feeds for say the 2 main games they should use them even if it means the red button games have to be shown with sidebars (unless they can have a mixture of aspect ratios on interactive?). Obviously this isn't an issue for SNF/MNF when there is just one game.

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personally I'd prefer if they didn't do that as I'd choose stretchtyvision over off putting black bars anyday and that ges for all games.
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Old 08.09.2008, 04:52 PM
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[quote author=RAIDER12 link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946678 date=1220876329]
Scratching my head on this one. My HD tv is fine and teh players don't look short and fat. Just glad I am not technologicaly advanced.



Mark
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mine looks fine aswell. Prehaps not reading the other posts :-\

Isn't it advertised with the W on the Sky EPG?? Why do have the W for widescreen if it's not?

Has anyone actually emailed Sky about this?
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Old 08.09.2008, 05:58 PM
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[quote author=Kase link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg947004 date=1220892769]
[quote author=RAIDER12 link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946678 date=1220876329]
Scratching my head on this one. My HD tv is fine and teh players don't look short and fat. Just glad I am not technologicaly advanced.

Mark
[/quote]

mine looks fine aswell. Prehaps not reading the other posts :-\

Isn't it advertised with the W on the Sky EPG?? Why do have the W for widescreen if it's not?

Has anyone actually emailed Sky about this?
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It's only shown as W on the HD channels as (I think) technically all broadcasts are widescreen because they are shown in HD (1920x1080) even though source may be 4:3 SD they are upscaled to HD resolution.

As for not looking fat try next Sunday (not tonight as it's HD) changing your tv to 4:3 (bars down each side) and you'll how see the players should look!


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Old 09.09.2008, 07:13 PM
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[quote author=Michelob The Unmeltatable Flying Snowman link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946781 date=1220881571]
[quote author=syborg link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=15#msg946771 date=1220881198]
[quote author=RAIDER12 link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946678 date=1220876329]
Scratching my head on this one. My HD tv is fine and teh players don't look short and fat. Just glad I am not technologicaly advanced.



Mark
[/quote]

I dont get all this tech speak. . I have a Sony Bravia 32" LCD HD ready TV and it all looks fine so I am ok. .not sure what all the fuss is about but then I dont do tech. . .lol :P
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Watch MNF on Sky Sports tonight. I'm sure you'll notice a difference
[/quote]I am just about to watch it as I taped it last night, so I will look and see what folk are talking about.


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