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Old 08.03.2016, 09:23 PM
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What the heck is first and second tender all about?
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Old 08.03.2016, 09:59 PM
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What the heck is first and second tender all about?
If a player is with a team for 6+ regular season games it counts as a 'accrued season'. If a player is with a team for 3 accrued seasons when his contract expires he becomes a restricted free agent. Any more than 3 'accrued seasons' and they are an unrestricted free agent.

Under the CBA a team can then make an offer, a 'tender', to retain the rights of that player for 1 year at a pre determined rate (the same across the league). The player can still talk to other teams, but if they reach a long term deal with another team then the original team can still match it and retain their player, or receive draft pick compensation for the loss of the player.

They have 4 different 'tenders'. 1st round, 2nd round, original draft pick, right of first refusal. If you tender a player with a 1st round tender it will cost you more, about $3.2m this year I think, but if a team wants to sign that player to an 'offer sheet' then they must cough up a 1st round pick in compensation. Same goes for 2nd round tender, 2nd round draft pick compensation. The original draft pick tender is cheaper, the compensation is equivalent to wherever they were drafted, obviously. The compensation can be nothing if they were undrafted e.g. Jeff Heath $1.6m. Right of first refusal is the cheapest of all, you get no compensation if they sign elsewhere.

Basically it's a cheaper way to retain a player you don't want to offer a long term deal to, or can't reach a long term deal with at this stage. You retain their rights so you can still trade them to an interested party for less than their 'tender' if you so wish.

e.g.

Cowboys tender Ron Leary with a 2nd round tender - $2.553m

If the Eagles offer him a 5 year, $25m deal, the Cowboys can match it OR they get the Eagles 2nd round draft pick in return.

If no one gives him an 'offer sheet' then he plays next season for $2.553m, would then have 4 'accrued' seasons and would become an unrestricted free agent in 2017, unless a long term deal can be reached.

*The player doesn't have to sign the tender, but they aren't getting paid until they do or they get a deal from another team.

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Thanks for that! a lot clearer,
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Thanks for that! a lot clearer,
Leary was undrafted so the staff could have given him that tender and saved more money if he wasn't signed?
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Leary was undrafted so the staff could have given him that tender and saved more money if he wasn't signed?
Yep, but you save about $800,000. Is that worth losing a back up/starting guard and getting nothing in return?

No one will give up a 2nd round pick for Leary, but it means the Cowboys keep his rights. If someone offered a 3rd round pick? They might be tempted to trade him away.

Personally, I don't think another team will offer a high enough draft pick to allow the Cowboys to part company with him. La'el Collins wasn't exactly Zach Martin as a rookie. For $2.5m it's worth having the safety net of Leary as your back up guard.
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Old 09.03.2016, 03:08 PM
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Rolando McClain re-signed. 1 year, $5m.

Well at least it's only a year. Personally he's never convinced me. He's certainly a physical presence that we lack perhaps, but he's a little inconsistent. He always seems to be trying to over come niggly little injuries too, and he hasn't got the stamina to play down after down either.

*Just looked back on what I wrote in January at the top of the thread:

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McClain is an enigma. He can make plays, but then he can go missing. He's a physical force the Cowboys lack in the middle, but he has his share of injury issues too. If they really like a LB in the draft, and I'm talking 1st or 2nd round, then maybe they move on but I think they have their eyes elsewhere so it's probably best to keep him on a short term deal at least.
So my thoughts are still the same, and it seems the Cowboys are too.

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Turns out McClain's deal is $4m, with incentives (75% snaps) taking it up to $5m.

That makes it a little more palatable given the injury/stamina concerns. If he wants all his money he'll have to stay in shape.
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We might look at Cedric Thornton from the Eagles (apparently) one sack per year guy
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Nolan Carroll CB, Matt Moore QB & Cedric Thornton DE to visit Cowboys.
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We might look at Cedric Thornton from the Eagles (apparently) one sack per year guy
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Nolan Carroll CB, Matt Moore QB & Cedric Thornton DE to visit Cowboys.
Thornton would be a nice addition at the right price.

Carroll? Hmmm, we have no CB's so it can't hurt I suppose.

Quite like the idea of Matt Moore competing with Kellen Moore for the back up job, especially after Colt McCoy resigned with the Redskins. Back in 2007 the Cowboys signed Matt Moore as an undrafted free agent.....and he was waived before the season began.
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