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Old 08.02.2011, 03:54 PM
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So a fairly lame idea here but as a history buff I wondered if we could have a thread dedicated to historical discussion? Maybe we can kickstart it by posting what our favourite areas are and work from there.

No need to be an academic!!
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Old 08.02.2011, 04:02 PM
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My name's Alex and I'm a second year undergraduate reading History and Politics. My passions are military history and 20th century Europe centering on the Second World War and Germany.

I enjoy history aswell, but not sure what level of debate you'll get here!?

My frustration of British academic history (or at least when I did my A-levels 12 years ago) is its far to obsessed with the 20th Century. Its like the 1000's of years before are completely irrelevant.

Perhaps you can enlighten us if this has changed at all?

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Old 08.02.2011, 04:09 PM
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Come on Nepalex. First post in and you are swearing. The rules are clear on this and that includes asterix's or relying on the swear filter to cover up the word.

The off topic thread is actually for entertainment and current news items only. I am aware that the off season is with us and things do slow up a bit here, but keep it civil not like history itself.



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Old 08.02.2011, 04:13 PM
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Come on Nepalex. First post in and you are swearing. The rules are clear on this and that includes asterix's or relying on the swear filter to cover up the word.

The off topic thread is actually for entertainment and current news items only. I am aware that the off season is with us and things do slow up a bit here, but keep it civil not like history itself.



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Sorry Mark?

I certainly did not swear! Is this a case of mistaken identities?

There is a politics thread so I just assumed that history would be ok as well.

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Old 08.02.2011, 04:22 PM
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Come on Nepalex. First post in and you are swearing. The rules are clear on this and that includes asterix's or relying on the swear filter to cover up the word.

The off topic thread is actually for entertainment and current news items only. I am aware that the off season is with us and things do slow up a bit here, but keep it civil not like history itself.



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I think he was referring to the third reich?! I doubt he was referring to Germany in any derogatory way.
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Old 08.02.2011, 04:29 PM
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I've just noticed from your quote of my post that the filter had removed the word most commonly associated with the Third Reich which most certainly is not a swear word and does not warrant the post condemming my use of language!

Anyway, to answer your earlier question beer_bart, academic history does tend to centre around the modern world (normally the period from 1789 to the present day.) Indeed the most common history degree is actually modern history just referred to as 'history.' Some Universities offer courses in 'Early Modern History' and even 'Ancient History' if you are so inclined!
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I've just noticed from your quote of my post that the filter had removed the word most commonly associated with the Third Reich which most certainly is not a swear word and does not warrant the post condemming my use of language!

Anyway, to answer your earlier question beer_bart, academic history does tend to centre around the modern world (normally the period from 1789 to the present day.) Indeed the most common history degree is actually modern history just referred to as 'history.' Some Universities offer courses in 'Early Modern History' and even 'Ancient History' if you are so inclined!
Unfortunately looking at your paragraph with the asterix, if as you say there was no swearing then fine. However looking at it withe the asterix it is very easy to see a 4 letter word could bee construed to go with Germany. In the end posters have a responsibility for there own posts, and if there is any dubiety it is down to the poster to deal with it



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I am, actually scratching my head here to think of a word to descibe 2nd world war Germany that would be asterixed out



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I am, actually scratching my head here to think of a word to descibe 2nd world war Germany that would be asterixed out



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I worked it out. And PM'd you about it. The abrieviation of National Socialist Party. I understand how it is unacceptable in a derogatory manner but that is clearly not the case.
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I'm a third year at Exeter, and must admit that I am guilty of being very much a modern history man.

This year I have studied the Ku Klux Klan, during the Reconstruction era, from 1915 to 1930 and then from 1945-the present day. Very interesting, although our lecturer is the most disorganised bloke I have ever met, and decided to spend half of the course watching films and leaving funny pictures on the projector to offend the next class.

I have also studied the First World War, looking into the myths and realities. Myths like the incompetence of the generals, the idea that the war came from the shooting of Archduke Ferdinand and that the Treaty of Versialles directly led to the Second World War. The lecturer is a good one, although a little bit demanding. She did a good job investigating the myths, although not all of them have totally been debunked.

My sole module this term is Thatcherism, looking at what Thatcher did, how she presented herself and how much she was what she said she was- something totally new. I've only just started it, but I did a fascinating piece of work on the miners' strike, although much of the course is economics, which I really don't know...

My dissertation is on Palestine. The exact question is 'Why were the British government unable to find an adequate solution to the problems of Palestine in 1945-1947?' I'm focussing on the involvement of America, the issues both internal to and external to Palestine with both Jews and Arabs, and basically trying to say that the British government did what they could to find a solution, but the situation was an impossible one to deal with.

In the first two years I studied a pointless foundation module, a not-quite-as-pointless-but-still-quite-pointless world history module (a few cherry-picked events from 1500-now), a module charting the development of science from 1500-1900, a module on Japan from 1945-now, a self-study project on the origins of the Cold War, a module on British imperialism in the Middle East from 1882-1956, a module on American crime from 1876-1941 and a module on English radicalism from 1500-now. All interesting and dis-interesting in their own ways!

Hopefully we can get some good discussion going, I don't know if there are many of us here, but we can get something going I'm sure!
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