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Old 29.07.2018, 04:42 PM
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If i was one of the more "liberal" owners i'd be pretty hacked off by this.
well that misses the point that almost straight after the NFL announced its new policy some "liberal" owners immediately broke rank and said they wouldn't enforce any punishments.who would have guessed a compromise wouldn't really solve the issue.

guess for Jones in Texas he knows the majority of Cowboy fans will back his stance the same way that Jed York abstained from the original vote as that plays to his teams base.
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But thats the thing youve got two of the most vocal people in America making sure their opinion is being heard loudest and theirs is the one the media (and fans) pick up on.



Tisch's comments got its fair share of coverage but nonsense tends to get a bit more air time.
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Old 31.07.2018, 05:07 PM
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so the NFL has "instructed" Jerry Jones to stop talking about the anthem just as Richard Sherman decides to call Jones "the owner of the Dallas Cowboy's with the old plantation mentality".
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so the NFL has "instructed" Jerry Jones to stop talking about the anthem just as Richard Sherman decides to call Jones "the owner of the Dallas Cowboy's with the old plantation mentality".

so some praise for the NFL then


and Sherman nailed it.
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so some praise for the NFL then


and Sherman nailed it.
well after Shermans choice of words wonder if Jone's will stay quiet or feel like he needs to reply.
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well after Shermans choice of words wonder if Jone's will stay quiet or feel like he needs to reply.

you mean the correct choice thats seems to sum Jones up well


it would be interesting to hear a back and forth between the 2, as i have a feeling Sherman would be the winner.
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Looks like ESPN, CBS and FOX have all confirmed that they will not be airing the national anthem prior to games this season (FOX confirmed that they would only air the anthem on holidays such as Veterans Day, Labor Day, Thanksgiving etc).

How CBS, Fox, NBC plan to handle the national anthem during NFL broadcasts - USA Today

I think this is probably the best option for the networks.
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There's an easy solution, get shot of the anthem before every game.
Agree 100%. I don't see why they need it. Indeed, they didn't used to have it pre-9/11. They don't play the anthem before domestic league games in other countries and other sports. They say they want to keep politics out of football, but the anthem has - unfortunately - become politics in itself. And the NFL openly courts military worship, which is also political. If you want to give thanks for people who do good for society why not pick someone far less controversial and parade nurses and fire fighters around the field?
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Agree 100%. I don't see why they need it. Indeed, they didn't used to have it pre-9/11. They don't play the anthem before domestic league games in other countries and other sports. They say they want to keep politics out of football, but the anthem has - unfortunately - become politics in itself. And the NFL openly courts military worship, which is also political. If you want to give thanks for people who do good for society why not pick someone far less controversial and parade nurses and fire fighters around the field?
think the anthem has been a staple of NFL games well before 2001 and from a quick read Baseball pretty much started playing it at every game from 1941 onwards and other sports then joined in at some point.

the only real rule change was in 2009 when the players in "primetime games" had to be on the sideline's pre-anthem like they have always been for the local 1pm/4pm kick offs.

the idea that not broadcasting the anthem will some how make this go away in a social media age is not going to work and also the Keapernick "collusion" case looks like it will drag on well into the regular season after this weeks news.
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think the anthem has been a staple of NFL games well before 2001 and from a quick read Baseball pretty much started playing it at every game from 1941 onwards and other sports then joined in at some point.

the only real rule change was in 2009 when the players in "primetime games" had to be on the sideline's pre-anthem like they have always been for the local 1pm/4pm kick offs.

the idea that not broadcasting the anthem will some how make this go away in a social media age is not going to work and also the Keapernick "collusion" case looks like it will drag on well into the regular season after this weeks news.
You're right on the anthem, I'd confused it with standing for the anthem on the sidelines rather than being in the locker room.

I can't see Kaepernick getting anywhere with this lawsuit. I don't know the workings of US law, but collusion is generally speaking a high bar. If 32 sets of owners independently reach the same decision that they don't want to sign him, that is not collusion.

I do think there has been an effort made to keep him out of the league in so far as each ownership has decided it won't be the one that signs him and angers its snowflake fanbase. But that doesn't make it a concerted effort.

There are and always have been different standards for those who are high profile and those who are anonymous. In other words, if your presence is a distraction (be that your fault or not) you need to be better to justify the team putting up with that distraction than some guy who keeps his head down and nobody notices.

This is one reason why Des Bryant is currently without a team. Of course he's better than many other receivers, but those receivers are not a locker room headache (plus there are probably financial issues). The same applied in the past to the likes of Tim Tebow, Michael Sam, Ray Rice and Johnny Manziel, for very different reasons. Ultimately none of them was good enough that their talent and upside to the team outweighed the locker room headaches or media circus that followed them. If Aaron Rodgers had done the same as Kaepernick he would still be playing; if, say, Josh McCown and Ryan Fitzpatrick had done the same, they probably wouldn't be in the league.
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