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Old 20.12.2017, 11:51 PM
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Damian Green has been sacked.

Why is it just the first instinct with these people to lie? It's the lies that bring them down.

If he had said "Yes, I did happen to look at a few saucy ladies on the internet, rather naughty of me" he would have got away with it. Everyone would have shrugged and that would have been that.

Pornography. Internet. Bears. Woods.

It's the knee jerk dishonesty that grates.
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Old 21.12.2017, 12:36 AM
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Damian Green has been sacked.

Why is it just the first instinct with these people to lie? It's the lies that bring them down.

If he had said "Yes, I did happen to look at a few saucy ladies on the internet, rather naughty of me" he would have got away with it. Everyone would have shrugged and that would have been that.

Pornography. Internet. Bears. Woods.

It's the knee jerk dishonesty that grates.
David Davis threatened to resign a few weeks ago if Green was sacked. I expect now he'll use the old Keynes line of "when the facts change, I change my mind."
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Old 21.12.2017, 07:28 PM
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Damian Green has been sacked.

Why is it just the first instinct with these people to lie? It's the lies that bring them down.

If he had said "Yes, I did happen to look at a few saucy ladies on the internet, rather naughty of me" he would have got away with it. Everyone would have shrugged and that would have been that.

Pornography. Internet. Bears. Woods.

It's the knee jerk dishonesty that grates.
think Damian Green still denies that the images on the computer where downloaded/viewed by him.he seems to have gone because he lied twice in November about the police telling him what they found this stuff during the aftermath of the original 2008 police state raid on an MP's office.

hopefully the retired policeman who took this to the media gets punished if he broke any laws in this matter.
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Old 21.12.2017, 08:06 PM
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David Davis threatened to resign a few weeks ago if Green was sacked. I expect now he'll use the old Keynes line of "when the facts change, I change my mind."
He can't use that one as he has refused to change his mind on Brexit despite numerous facts showing Brexit is a bad idea.
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Old 22.12.2017, 08:04 AM
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To the surprise of zero people, David Davis had backtracked on his threat to resign. Clearly not a man of his word.

At least he has released the Brexit reports which have been copied of Wikipedia and are absolute nonsense. There are so bad that even the Daily Mail is embarrassed by them.
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Old 22.12.2017, 10:23 AM
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But blue passports! We're all getting them back at last!! (Except for those who are under about 45, who never had a blue passport to begin with).

Now of course they're only going to allow you to live and work in the UK, and not the 27 nations of the EU.
Of course now when you travel to an EU nation you're going to have to join that epic queue for 'non-EU' travel, rather than just blipping your barcode through the machine and going about your business freely. And you're going to have to arrange Visas for countries that you want to enter and leave that currently you don't have to worry about.

And of course we could have already have blue (or any other colour) passports as an EU member - as Croatia do, for example, without losing the rights and freedoms that we currently enjoy.

But still, blue passports, eh? Smells like victory!!!!
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Old 22.12.2017, 10:38 AM
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But blue passports! We're all getting them back at last!! (Except for those who are under about 45, who never had a blue passport to begin with).

Now of course they're only going to allow you to live and work in the UK, and not the 27 nations of the EU.
Of course now when you travel to an EU nation you're going to have to join that epic queue for 'non-EU' travel, rather than just blipping your barcode through the machine and going about your business freely. And you're going to have to arrange Visas for countries that you want to enter and leave that currently you don't have to worry about.

And of course we could have already have blue (or any other colour) passports as an EU member - as Croatia do, for example, without losing the rights and freedoms that we currently enjoy.

But still, blue passports, eh? Smells like victory!!!!
And of course a decent number of those who care about blue supporters probably have no intention of going abroad anyway.
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Old 22.12.2017, 10:39 AM
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Incidentally I'll be renewing my passport a couple of years early in 2019 to get another burgandy 'EU' one. With any luck we'll decide to remain or rejoin and I'll end up never owning one of the lesser 'blue' ones
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Old 22.12.2017, 10:49 PM
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Incidentally I'll be renewing my passport a couple of years early in 2019 to get another burgandy 'EU' one. With any luck we'll decide to remain or rejoin and I'll end up never owning one of the lesser 'blue' ones
This sums up Brexit in a nutshell, for me. It's pointless, it makes no sense, it will be significantly less good than what we have now in terms of the rights and benefits, but that doesn't matter because it will get rid of the words European Union at the top and be a different colour to what the foreigners have. Ideological and stupid.

Anyone before after in the 70's or later likely never had a blue passport so won't see this as a welcome return - it's something we never had. So it's mostly the elderly. Who probably are less likely to use them anyway.

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Old 22.12.2017, 11:24 PM
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..Of course now when you travel to an EU nation you're going to have to join that epic queue for 'non-EU' travel, rather than just blipping your barcode through the machine and going about your business freely.
Perhaps there will be a difference at major hubs. But the smaller airports, I don't know if it will make much difference. There is usually only one queue anyway.

As for the robo passport readers, they never like my passport anyway! I always have to come out of that queue and go and see a person.

There will be consequences, but I wouldn't put these things very high on the list and I can't see there being much added inconvenience to a holiday.

I should think the people who will feel the biggest impact holiday wise are people who have got used to going to Ibiza, say, and dancing the night away to their favourite DJ's from the UK. There is no guarantee this will be able to continue. But perhaps they will transfer their affections to Bognor Regis.

The same goes for holiday reps, ski instructors, musicians of all kinds really.

One curious factor in all the kerfuffle about Ireland is the complete silence about Gibraltar. We really are hanging poor Gibraltar out to dry, aren't we?
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