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Old 15.07.2015, 09:42 AM
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Yeah if you hold out then you hold out, i mean dont show up at all pre season unlike Dez who has been around the team. Just a shame it has to go this far, but yes we have had him on the cheap and i think he deserves a deal long term
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Old 16.07.2015, 03:22 PM
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So, now the dust has settled - 5 years / $70m / up to $45m guaranteed.

Cap hits?:

2015 - $7m
2016 - $13m
2017 - $17m
2018 - $16.5m
2019 - $16.5m

I expect we'll see a little reworking of the deal in 2017, pushing some money into an extra year perhaps. Then again, it depends on what the rest of the cap situation looks like at that point with Romo, Hardy, etc, plus the cap will rise anyway.

All in all, especially for this year and next, the cap hits are team friendly. A true franchise WR is tied up for 5 years, by which point he'll be 32. Quite happy with a 5 year deal too, if it would have been 7 years to spread the cost it could have got messy down the line. It's quite realistic to think that Dez could see out the deal as it stands to be honest.

It's down to business now!...................................
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Old 16.07.2015, 07:11 PM
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So, now the dust has settled - 5 years / $70m / up to $45m guaranteed.

Cap hits?:

2015 - $7m
2016 - $13m
2017 - $17m
2018 - $16.5m
2019 - $16.5m

I expect we'll see a little reworking of the deal in 2017, pushing some money into an extra year perhaps. Then again, it depends on what the rest of the cap situation looks like at that point with Romo, Hardy, etc, plus the cap will rise anyway.

All in all, especially for this year and next, the cap hits are team friendly. A true franchise WR is tied up for 5 years, by which point he'll be 32. Quite happy with a 5 year deal too, if it would have been 7 years to spread the cost it could have got messy down the line. It's quite realistic to think that Dez could see out the deal as it stands to be honest.

It's down to business now!...................................
Surely this is really a 3 year deal with two years of negotiating room.

All the guaranteed is burnt up by the time he turns 30 where he could

a) be the best wideout in the league looking for one last massive deal
b) continue to be a top 3/5/10 receiver where that money is likely to be 'fair'
c) have lost his quickness/agility/other that makes him a liability
d) have done something 'detrimental' to the team and the Cowboys are looking to exit him out of the building.

Considering the risk/reward of a player like Bryant, it's smart for a team to give themselves some get out even if it does mean throwing money at the problem again if things work out too well.
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Old 16.07.2015, 07:49 PM
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Surely this is really a 3 year deal with two years of negotiating room.

All the guaranteed is burnt up by the time he turns 30 where he could

a) be the best wideout in the league looking for one last massive deal
b) continue to be a top 3/5/10 receiver where that money is likely to be 'fair'
c) have lost his quickness/agility/other that makes him a liability
d) have done something 'detrimental' to the team and the Cowboys are looking to exit him out of the building.

Considering the risk/reward of a player like Bryant, it's smart for a team to give themselves some get out even if it does mean throwing money at the problem again if things work out too well.
You make a good point. The issue was always going to be protecting the Cowboys from age/injury/decline. As you say, by 2017/18 all the guaranteed money has been paid out. They can convert some base salary to bonuses in 2018 & 19 if they need to lower the cap hit and Dez is still performing as expected.
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You make a good point. The issue was always going to be protecting the Cowboys from age/injury/decline. As you say, by 2017/18 all the guaranteed money has been paid out. They can convert some base salary to bonuses in 2018 & 19 if they need to lower the cap hit and Dez is still performing as expected.
It wouldn't be surprising if bonus transition happens next off-season when the second half of the potential guaranteed money is solidified.
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