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Old 28.01.2018, 10:36 AM
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Au contraire! This is a good year to find a TE and DT.

They'll draft a day 3 LB to replace Hitchens unless Roquan Smith somehow lands in their lap at 19 and they have no other options.
Just going on Drafteks top 100-only 2 TEs are listed, Andrews(30) and Goedert(60) seem to remember a better classs last year?
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Old 28.01.2018, 10:55 AM
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Just going on Drafteks top 100-only 2 TEs are listed, Andrews(30) and Goedert(60) seem to remember a better classs last year?
Last year had 5 TE's go in the top 46 picks, so it probably was a better year. That doesn't mean this year is a bad year though. It might lack your OJ Howard's or Evan Engram's, but perhaps it's a deeper class in terms of 2nd or 3rd round guys? There seems to be several guys in that rd 2 mix, and that's before the Combine numbers are in. Some super athletic guy or a kid with a basketball background always jumps up the board a little.
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Old 28.01.2018, 06:18 PM
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Hard to evaluate genuine 3techs, Tave Bryan may be the best of the bunch, has power to bullrush and speed off the snap, most of the other guys i,ve seen line up as i techs or even NT
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Hard to evaluate genuine 3techs, Tave Bryan may be the best of the bunch, has power to bullrush and speed off the snap, most of the other guys i,ve seen line up as i techs or even NT
Just looking at the measureables it doesn't look like there are to many obvious ones out there. Beyond Hurst and Bryan it feels like you have to dig a bit. Either 'smaller' 5 techniques perhaps or short guys who could perhaps lose some weight and gain a little quickness.

I had a look at Rasheem Green from USC (6'4 275) but he didn't look that twitchy on tape so moved on quite quickly. Another one was Andrew Brown (from Virginia (6'4 280), he seems to line up in a 3 man front (DE) but he looked like he had a little more explosion than Green. Seem to get some penetration at times and looked reasonably stout against the run. He might be a Tyron Crawford type that they could use inside or as a big DE?
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Quite like Steven Richardson(Minnesota) 6-0 300
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Hercules Mata,afa is interesting, hes listed anywhere between 225 and 252, lines up on the D Line, listed as an edge rusher, but hes so quick off the snap, hes in the backfield before blockers are out of the stance! 10.5 sacks in 17, needs to gain some weight for the NFL, but interesting all the same.
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Old 29.01.2018, 10:08 PM
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Hercules Mata,afa is interesting, hes listed anywhere between 225 and 252, lines up on the D Line, listed as an edge rusher, but hes so quick off the snap, hes in the backfield before blockers are out of the stance! 10.5 sacks in 17, needs to gain some weight for the NFL, but interesting all the same.
Will have to take a look at those 2.

I made an effort to watch some more Taven Bryan tape tonight. Watched him against Kentucky, FSU, LSU and Tennessee, although the last 2 games were limited snaps because they were cut ups of other players really.

On the plus side, when he times his get off right, stays low and/or extends he can split blockers or put blockers on skates with his bull rush. He can be disruptive. It's not consistent though, plus teams know he's an up-field guy so just scheme with that in mind (screens, running at him or away from him, etc). His first snap can be very good.....when he flashes it.

On the negative side.......He gets washed out of plays quite often, against single blockers at times too. He ends up on the ground quite a bit. In his defence some O linemen simply cut block him, but sometimes he gets twisted to the ground or caught up in the trash around his feet. He doesn't do a great job of keeping his eyes in the backfield either. He can get caught up in one on one battles and before he realises it the play has gone by him or he simply cant react/shed the block. Too often he didn't show up well against the run.

That first step is borderline first round, but the negatives that showed up in those 4 games are worrying. If he's there at 50, then maybe, and hope you can smooth out some of the rough edges.
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Hercules Mata,afa is interesting, hes listed anywhere between 225 and 252, lines up on the D Line, listed as an edge rusher, but hes so quick off the snap, hes in the backfield before blockers are out of the stance! 10.5 sacks in 17, needs to gain some weight for the NFL, but interesting all the same.
Just watched him against USC. He's an odd one isn't he because he looks too small/lightweight to be playing on the D line. He lined up everywhere along the D line though and he didn't look too out of place.

He got completely washed out on one run play though, gave up a huge TD run. That's worrying. But then he blew up 2 run plays later in the game by just being too quick for his blocker like you pointed out. The crushed the RB in the backfield on one play.

Not sure where he fits in the NFL (or for the Cowboys). He's a bit of a tweener.
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Will be interesting where the Boys go with that round 1 pick, seems a poorish yr for TE, DT? i dont think we will tinker much with it, (like Daron Payne) Vea will no doubt be gone by 19th pick, LB? havnt seen any yet, but with Lee having injury worries and Smith being on a big year or not, theres a prob there. IF Ridley is still out there (doubt it) that may be the pick
This is a really good DT class. There isn't a top 10 pick in the list, but in the 2nd half the 1st round you have some great players.

Hurst, Vea, Payne, Bryan take your pick.....
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This is a really good DT class. There isn't a top 10 pick in the list, but in the 2nd half the 1st round you have some great players.

Hurst, Vea, Payne, Bryan take your pick.....
Bryan is the only one I've sat down and looked at properly so far, and I just can't settle on the idea of him being a 1st rd pick. His first step can be good, and he can certainly be disruptive, but when you watch him down after down he doesn't show up enough, especially against the run. Admittedly he isnt built like a run stuffer, he's a one gap 3tech. Still, imo he needs to do a better job against the run. He can make back side plays with his quickness but he gets washed out of plays too often or doesn't keep his eyes in the backfield.

It feels like you are betting on his all around game catching up with his first step. Be interesting to see how he measures at the Combine (arm length and weight).
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