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Old 08.09.2008, 10:31 AM
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It's about time games were shown in wide screen. I have no clue if the games are still being broadcast in the U.S in this tired old format, but it gets on my nerves.
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Old 08.09.2008, 10:41 AM
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There is an existing thread on this called 'widescreen'. To recap, Sky showed most of the pre-season in 16:9 but have gone back to 4:3 now that the regular season has started.

Tonights games will probably be in 16:9 on the SD channels as they are being broadcast in HD on Sky Sports HD 2.

I agree, it's not good service from Sky. However there could be any number of reasons outside of Sky's control that is causing this, so don't be too quick to point the finger.
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Old 08.09.2008, 10:47 AM
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Yeah the 4:3 format is really annoying....even the wife asked me "why are all american football players short and fat??" ;D But seriously it's well overdue that we got Widescreen. I know in the States that they have 2 primary formats: SD 4:3 & HD 16:9. Why can't they come up to speed with the rest of the world and have SD 16:9??

Sky could also pick up the HD feed and even if they only broadcast it in SD it would at least be in Widescreen!
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Old 08.09.2008, 10:57 AM
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[quote author=namloc link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946567 date=1220870828]
I know in the States that they have 2 primary formats: SD 4:3 & HD 16:9. Why can't they come up to speed with the rest of the world and have SD 16:9??
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Because it isn't needed, 99.9% of TVs are either 4:3 SD or 16:9 HD. When we introduced 16:9 SD in the late 90s, the States went straight to 16:9 HD. It's this country that is behind.
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Old 08.09.2008, 11:14 AM
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[quote author=Gary link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946584 date=1220871464]
[quote author=namloc link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946567 date=1220870828]
I know in the States that they have 2 primary formats: SD 4:3 & HD 16:9. Why can't they come up to speed with the rest of the world and have SD 16:9??
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Because it isn't needed, 99.9% of TVs are either 4:3 SD or 16:9 HD. When we introduced 16:9 SD in the late 90s, the States went straight to 16:9 HD. It's this country that is behind.
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You're having a laugh?? Not every single programme / channel in the US broadcasts in HD so how do people put up with 4:3 stretchy-vision on their widecreen TV's? Surely it makes more sense to have one aspect ratio i.e 16:9 and broadcast both SD and HD @ that ratio????
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Old 08.09.2008, 11:33 AM
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[quote author=namloc link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946608 date=1220872445]
[quote author=Gary link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946584 date=1220871464]
[quote author=namloc link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946567 date=1220870828]
I know in the States that they have 2 primary formats: SD 4:3 & HD 16:9. Why can't they come up to speed with the rest of the world and have SD 16:9??
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Because it isn't needed, 99.9% of TVs are either 4:3 SD or 16:9 HD. When we introduced 16:9 SD in the late 90s, the States went straight to 16:9 HD. It's this country that is behind.
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You're having a laugh?? Not every single programme / channel in the US broadcasts in HD so how do people put up with 4:3 stretchy-vision on their widecreen TV's? Surely it makes more sense to have one aspect ratio i.e 16:9 and broadcast both SD and HD @ that ratio????
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You're right, not every programme is made in HD. However more and more programmes are made in HD every year especially by the big networks.

Think about what you've said for a second, a lot of programmes are still made in SD 4:3 because their isn't the budget to make them in HD. However if we use your bright idea, they should invest in 16:9 lenses and editing facilities now and then in a couple of years time upgrade again to a full HD production facility. That's just stupid and a waste of money, you make programmes in 4:3 and when the budget allows upgrade to full HD production.

Of course by making programmes in 16:9 SD, you're annoying the standard SD viewer who doesn't have a widescreen TV and you're annoying the HDTV viewer who is getting widescreen but poor picture quality. So effectively you've annoyed 100% of your domestic viewers, just to please some Brit.
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Old 08.09.2008, 11:42 AM
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[quote author=Gary link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946638 date=1220873583]
[quote author=namloc link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946608 date=1220872445]
[quote author=Gary link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946584 date=1220871464]
[quote author=namloc link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946567 date=1220870828]
I know in the States that they have 2 primary formats: SD 4:3 & HD 16:9. Why can't they come up to speed with the rest of the world and have SD 16:9??
[/quote]

Because it isn't needed, 99.9% of TVs are either 4:3 SD or 16:9 HD. When we introduced 16:9 SD in the late 90s, the States went straight to 16:9 HD. It's this country that is behind.
[/quote]

You're having a laugh?? Not every single programme / channel in the US broadcasts in HD so how do people put up with 4:3 stretchy-vision on their widecreen TV's? Surely it makes more sense to have one aspect ratio i.e 16:9 and broadcast both SD and HD @ that ratio????
[/quote]

You're right, not every programme is made in HD. However more and more programmes are made in HD every year especially by the big networks.

Think about what you've said for a second, a lot of programmes are still made in SD 4:3 because their isn't the budget to make them in HD. However if we use your bright idea, they should invest in 16:9 lenses and editing facilities now and then in a couple of years time upgrade again to a full HD production facility. That's just stupid and a waste of money, you make programmes in 4:3 and when the budget allows upgrade to full HD production.

Of course by making programmes in 16:9 SD, you're annoying the standard SD viewer who doesn't have a widescreen TV and you're annoying the HDTV viewer who is getting widescreen but poor picture quality. So effectively you've annoyed 100% of your domestic viewers, just to please some Brit.
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The bit I would question is the use of 16:9 SD production. Every quality new show (that I have watched) from the U.S for years has been shown in 16:9 in the UK. Surely most U.S TVs are wide screen, therefore producing 4:3 programs is pointless whether they are SD or HD. Sky were showing sport etc. in 16:9 long before HD was available.
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Old 08.09.2008, 11:52 AM
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[quote author=payton3434 link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946650 date=1220874176]

The bit I would question is the use of 16:9 SD production. Every quality new show (that I have watched) from the U.S for years has been shown in 16:9 in the UK. Surely most U.S TVs are wide screen, therefore producing 4:3 programs is pointless whether they are SD or HD. Sky were showing sport etc. in 16:9 long before HD was available.
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The shows you're referring to are all made in HD (which means widescreen as well), however as I said earlier unless a TV is HD it's highly unlikely that it will be 16:9 in the States.

Getting back on track, most (possibly all this season) game are broadcast in 16:9 HDTV in America. However the feeds we get via Sky are 4:3, whether that's what Sky are made to take or have elected to take is anybodys guess.
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Old 08.09.2008, 12:02 PM
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[quote author=Gary link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946638 date=1220873583]
[quote author=namloc link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946608 date=1220872445]
[quote author=Gary link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946584 date=1220871464]
[quote author=namloc link=board=2;threadid=35234;start=0#msg946567 date=1220870828]
I know in the States that they have 2 primary formats: SD 4:3 & HD 16:9. Why can't they come up to speed with the rest of the world and have SD 16:9??
[/quote]

Because it isn't needed, 99.9% of TVs are either 4:3 SD or 16:9 HD. When we introduced 16:9 SD in the late 90s, the States went straight to 16:9 HD. It's this country that is behind.
[/quote]

You're having a laugh?? Not every single programme / channel in the US broadcasts in HD so how do people put up with 4:3 stretchy-vision on their widecreen TV's? Surely it makes more sense to have one aspect ratio i.e 16:9 and broadcast both SD and HD @ that ratio????
[/quote]

You're right, not every programme is made in HD. However more and more programmes are made in HD every year especially by the big networks.

Think about what you've said for a second, a lot of programmes are still made in SD 4:3 because their isn't the budget to make them in HD. However if we use your bright idea, they should invest in 16:9 lenses and editing facilities now and then in a couple of years time upgrade again to a full HD production facility. That's just stupid and a waste of money, you make programmes in 4:3 and when the budget allows upgrade to full HD production.

Of course by making programmes in 16:9 SD, you're annoying the standard SD viewer who doesn't have a widescreen TV and you're annoying the HDTV viewer who is getting widescreen but poor picture quality. So effectively you've annoyed 100% of your domestic viewers, just to please some Brit.
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I'm actually IRISH!! Anyway, how do they hope that people will buy widescreen TV's if they continue to produce vast amounts of television in 4:3? Surely the aim should be to increase the installed base of people with 16:9 enabled TV's so that it makes it easier to switch away from 4:3?!?
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Old 08.09.2008, 12:18 PM
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Scratching my head on this one. My HD tv is fine and teh players don't look short and fat. Just glad I am not technologicaly advanced.



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