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Old 14.12.2015, 01:20 PM
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http://realsport101.com/nfl-2016-dra...nge-the-order/ - if things stay as they stand in the 2016 draft order who would you be looking to sign/ where would you be looking to strengthen?
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Old 14.12.2015, 10:52 PM
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hate talking about the draft already the play offs havnt even started, BUT if i have to, do we look at a back up for Romo or a back? Linebacker? defensive line man? i think we need to look at whats happened this season, OFFENSE is rubbish without Romo/Bryant working together, and we have problems on D stopping the run, and with special teams, if there is a quality back in the draft then i think thats priority we need a consistent run even if it means Murray coming back? i dont know why we let him go in the first place...cap jeez so many things to ponder..ok Linebacker- no wait, a big run stuffing DT
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A long road ahead, and plenty of college players to watch, but what's the general opinion of our needs going forward.

If all players were rated the same what position would you prioritise? Here's my thoughts:

1. QB - The future of the franchise (and a back up for next year)
2. CB - The Cowboys sorely lack depth, talent and play making in the secondary.
3. LB - The Cowboys need a stud LB, even if Sean Lee can stay healthy, preferably one that can cover.
4. RB - McFadden had nearly 1,100 yards, but just 3 TD's, and he's 29 this year. A talented bell cow RB could make an impact straight away.

The next few are dependent on a few things:

4. S - Depends on where Bryon Jones' future lies, but they could still do with a talent injection here. If they get a top class CB then it's less of a priority.
5. WR - Are Terrance Williams or Brice Butler no.2 WR's? Maybe....maybe not. Long term a top WR would be the heir to Dez.
6. DT - This would be higher, if they wanted more from their 1 tech (which I think they should).
7. DE - Lawrence and Gregory are the future. Another top talent in the rotation wouldn't hurt, but is it a priority? A lot depends on Greg Hardy too.


Something to bear in mind, the last Cornerback to win Defensive Rookie of the Year honours was Charles Woodson in 1998! Not saying a rookie CB can't have an impact, but 11 of the last 16 DRoY have been LB's, 3 DE's and 2 DT's. Obviously LB's rack up stats/tackles so grab the attention, especially on bad teams, but they clearly make an impact.

On the offensive side of the ball, the last 16 ORoY's, 7 RB's, 6 QB's and 3 WR's. Again, it doesn't mean that WR's can't have a major impact, but they perhaps struggle to make an immediate impact unlike top tier RB's.
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Old 07.01.2016, 11:53 AM
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QB Jared Goff Cal
CB Jalen Ramsey Florida St
ILB Reggie Ragland Alabama
OLB Miles Jack UCLA
RB Ezekiel Elliott Ohio St

Top prospect by position from CBS sports
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Old 07.01.2016, 01:28 PM
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QB Jared Goff Cal
CB Jalen Ramsey Florida St
ILB Reggie Ragland Alabama
OLB Miles Jack UCLA
RB Ezekiel Elliott Ohio St

Top prospect by position from CBS sports
Plenty of watching to do.

Goff seems to have his detractors and the question will be is he (or potentially down the line) worth the 4th pick in the draft if he's still available.

Ramsey seems to be touted as a Safety who can play Corner. Not sure if that's what the Cowboys need, but if he's a top prospect at both positions it can't hurt to have that versatility. Just a question of whether you are getting a slightly better version of Byron Jones, 'stuck' between 2 positions.

Ragland looks more like a run stuffer. No way he's going at no.4 if he can't stay on the field for all 3 downs (don't know yet, haven't watch enough, but his size suggests not). Top of the 2nd round? Maybe, but not convinced.

Jack seems like a prototypical fit for this D. Marinelli wanted Ryan Shazier (Steelers) previously, so he has to be on the radar. He can clearly cover, so he's a 3 down guy. Just have to wait on the medical checks for his knee injury.

Elliott and Henry seem to be the top 2 backs in the draft, at no.4 though I can't see it happening. Not in today's NFL (it's a copycat league) where the RB is 'devalued', and not when this draft looks deep at RB yet again. I don't see him making it to the top of round 2 either, so i doubt he'll be a Cowboy sadly.
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Far too early yet but i think Mr Cunliffe summed it up as to the areas we should look at, as it is, if we can get Scandrick back fit and healthy, with Carr and Claibourne it doesnt look a bad 3 to have at CB, we need depth there tho as Jones need to play safety i think, Linebacker seems more important at the mo if we carry on 4-3 which no doubt we will, havnt really looked at the drafties yet, but then again Mclain when fit is ok, apparently he had a belting last game against the Skins, i doubt we draft a QB but as Moore done enough? again great last game.
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Jarrah Reed sounds like the kind of guy i would like,but it probably won't be Marinellis,
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Jarrah Reed sounds like the kind of guy i would like,but it probably won't be Marinellis,
The problem is Sharrif Floyd was a guy the Cowboys had a shot at no.18 the year they traded back to draft Travis Frederick at no.31. The talk was they saw him as a 1 technique, and that it wasn't valued by Marinelli in this scheme. Either that or they thought Floyd wasn't a 'difference maker'. He' turned out to be a good player. Plus the talk was he was high on their board, so that casts doubt over the whole process.

The thing that could change that is if they have more confidence in the rest of the D line and think he could really help add extra pressure/sacks.

Still, with LB and secondary obvious keys to this D then it could push DT down the list a little. If it does that then you are looking at day 3 of the draft, and even though there is plenty of depth in the draft you aren't going to get a 'blue chip' guy that late.

I'm going to take a good look at the DT's in this class this week, that way i'll have a better understanding of how deep this class is and/or whether it's 'top heavy'.

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Sheldon Rankins is being banded about, and he would be a fit for our d line but he will probably go first round
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Sheldon Rankins is being banded about, and he would be a fit for our d line but he will probably go first round
Rankins, Kenny Clark out of UCLA, Andrew Billings (Baylor), Reed and Robinson (Alabama), Austin Johnson (Penn State), Sheldon Day (ND) and there are several more. The class is deep with names at the moment.

I noticed Rankins earlier in the season during a Louisville game, mainly because he looked the part. I watched a little of him earlier today, and he's solid. He's stout against the run, but can flash the ability to disrupt plays. I wouldn't say he 'wowed' me in the game I watched earlier (FSU I think), but he certainly is one to watch.

Robert Nkemdiche looks the most explosive of DT's I've watched, but obviously he's more of a 3 Tech and Tyrone Crawford is there at the moment. Kenny Clark is talked about as a NT, but from what I've watched he's a 1 gap guy and more towards a 3 tech for me. Billings looks a powerful player, a little top heavy perhaps, but has a quick step. The 'Bama duo are good players too, especially against the run (although that's what the scheme expects).

Austin Johnson is another name on the rise, I watched a bit of him against Ohio state earlier too. Bigger bodied guy, more of a typical NT. Seems to have a bit of height so his arm length probably allows him to 2 gap. Reminded me a little of DaQuan Jones, another Penn State DT from the 2014 Draft. Jones went in the 4th round.

I don't think the value is there at no.4, especially with how the roster is set up at the moment. In this scheme you'd consider Nkemdiche at no.4. Not saying you'd take him, but his play making ability would bring more value. At no.35, that's the spot to see what is left on the board and decide whether or not one of these guys will be an upgrade at the 1 Tech.
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