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Old 21.03.2019, 07:13 PM
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so the WSJ are reporting "according to sources" that the NFL paid less than $10m to settle both the Kaepernick/Reid collusion cases.
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Old 21.03.2019, 07:19 PM
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so the WSJ are reporting "according to sources" that the NFL paid less than $10m to settle both the Kaepernick/Reid collusion cases.

when someone wants to offer proof thats when i will buy it both sides will leak numbers to suit and the truth will be someone in the middle.
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Old 21.03.2019, 07:19 PM
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the fact there is a video may force the leagues hand a little but remember plenty of off-season "fights" where the league has just ignored them so don't see Crawford getting anything to severe.
Yeah, from the clips I've seen, I can't see him getting much more than a slap on the wrist. Hardly 'protecting the shield' but hardly a full on fist fight either.

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so the WSJ are reporting "according to sources" that the NFL paid less than $10m to settle both the Kaepernick/Reid collusion cases.
As Andrew Brandt alluded to, $300,000 per team. Hmmm.
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Old 21.03.2019, 07:22 PM
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but the video would be fine, as the audio would be the breach, as you put it?
I don’t understand what’s happening with this convo at all ha

Are we really saying the multi billionaire was at the dodgy random massage parlour for a massage even though he clearly has health clubs and spas and people on the payroll to do that...


I’m all for being a “homer” and defending your guy... but cmon he can’t be serious.... he is bang to rights. Caught red handed.

Ridiculous to suggest anything else.

Joe Bloggs with little or no money could offer the defence of he just had a massage and there might be some doubt....

But cmon... it’s a bad a Lorraine Kelly and her tax dodging.... own it... everyone else knows it’s wrong. Do the right thing.

People are horrible. Not for when they make mistakes or try and bend rules but when they are caught.
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Old 21.03.2019, 08:02 PM
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Indianapolis have signed LB Justin Houston...

EDIT: 2 year deal worth $24m.

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Old 21.03.2019, 08:07 PM
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Indianapolis have signed LB Justin Houston...

EDIT: 2 year deal worth $24m.
They've got so much cap space, that on a 2 year deal, it was almost impossible for them to 'over pay'.

Even if he only gets single digit sacks for them it'll be worth the cost. 2 years from now he'll be on another team.
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Old 21.03.2019, 08:26 PM
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They've got so much cap space, that on a 2 year deal, it was almost impossible for them to 'over pay'.

Even if he only gets single digit sacks for them it'll be worth the cost. 2 years from now he'll be on another team.
do the Colts play a 3-4 or will Houston either have to play DE or LB in a scheme he hasn't been asked to asked to play in for a while??
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Old 21.03.2019, 08:28 PM
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When on the top of his game Justin Houston is probably my favourite defensive player over the last 3-4 years. Its a shame injuries and now age curtailing him but still offers a lot for the Colts if he can stay healthy
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Old 21.03.2019, 11:14 PM
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Not obviously at all. Often you just pay someone to get rid of them. Whatever they paid him won't represent anything except the value of getting rid of the lawsuit, is my guess. Bad publicity, management time taken by it rumbling on, the ongoing cost of lawyers to represent you, airing dirty linen in public (even if you win there may be bad things that come out or confidential things you don't want out there in public). An amount offered may factor in how much you are potentially on the hook for if you lost in court, but often it does not, especially if you are very confident of winning. Certainly in the area of litigation I personally work in, the sad reality is that it is almost always better business to pay someone off who doesn't deserve it than it is to fight and win. The only times where that isn't true is where the person suing you is in cloud cuckoo land with their financial demands. You may chose to fight it just to prove a point, but it's actually a victory that comes with a metaphorical punch in the stomach. And Kaepernick obviously wasn't in cloud cuckoo land.

None of us knows the details, but I personally think Kaepernick would have had a very hard time winning this in court. Not unless there was an absolutely smoking gun of an email out there somewhere saying "right, so we're all agreed - nobody hire this guy". If the NFL owners were colluding, they'd have to be pretty stupid to leave such a paper trail, especially as there are people with the financial means to get access to, you'd think, some pretty good lawyers who would have warned them about paper trails long before any discussions ever took place. The whole don't sign them argument falls flat with Reid anyway - because someone signed him. Then offered him a 3-year deal at the end of it for a lot of money. That drug testing claim he made really damaged his credibility as a claimant, I think. As for Kaepernick, he obviously hasn't signed, but his lawsuit is about collusion. And 31 front offices all independently deciding they don't want to go there is not collusion. Collusion requires a concerted effort to sideline him. I don't believe that ever existed. What we do have though is a league where talent has always needed to outweigh distraction to get you a job, a largely conservative ownership group and - I'd be inclined to guess - a largely conservative fan base as well. Ownership, independent of each other, decided they did not want to go there. Ironically, I can think of one team that almost certainly would not have been put off by Kaepernick. A liberal fanbase, with a liberal ownership and a young, open-minded head coach. The San Francisco 49ers. The team who signed Richard Sherman, fellow vocal protestor, last year. Too bad Kaepernick voided his deal with them and walked out. I'm also certain that if another front office thought they could get a net-net advantage over other teams by signing Kaepernick then they would not hesitate.
My comments from the time of the settlement, for reference.

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so the WSJ are reporting "according to sources" that the NFL paid less than $10m to settle both the Kaepernick/Reid collusion cases.
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when someone wants to offer proof thats when i will buy it both sides will leak numbers to suit and the truth will be someone in the middle.
I can't comment on whether $10m is accurate, but I am confident that it was a low amount. There was nothing in the case, Reid's signing blew a hole in what was already a weak suit, and this was what we in the business call a 'nuisance settlement'. A 'get rid of it' payment. The timing was wrong for this to be a big offer from the NFL, and if Kaepernick thought he had them he wouldn't settle now. He would plough on and use the threat of this going public to jack up the price further.

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As Andrew Brandt alluded to, $300,000 per team. Hmmm.
Indeed - a no brainer, right? I mean for those guys it's nothing at all to make it go away.
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Old 21.03.2019, 11:27 PM
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Darqueze Dennard re-signing with the Bengals.

Never lived up to his draft status but I thought he'd generate more interest than he has. The contract will be telling, as usual.
Bengals aren't known to throw money around, and especially this week you would think, so I can't see it being too big a deal.
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