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Old 27.09.2017, 04:06 PM
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Old 27.09.2017, 08:07 PM
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so guess not everyone associated with the NFL supports the anthem protest.

Direct TV who run the "sunday ticket" in the states are allowing fans to cancel there season long subscription and get a refund if they says its because of the protests.

the Packers and Falcons are already talking about asking fans to join in anthem activities this week so maybe a way of pushing the linking arms for unity and getting away from the kneeling that is causing the most negative reaction.
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Old 27.09.2017, 08:25 PM
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so guess not everyone associated with the NFL supports the anthem protest.

Direct TV who run the "sunday ticket" in the states are allowing fans to cancel there season long subscription and get a refund if they says its because of the protests.

the Packers and Falcons are already talking about asking fans to join in anthem activities this week so maybe a way of pushing the linking arms for unity and getting away from the kneeling that is causing the most negative reaction.

its almost like businesses will take any shot to get stories
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Old 27.09.2017, 08:47 PM
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so guess not everyone associated with the NFL supports the anthem protest.

Direct TV who run the "sunday ticket" in the states are allowing fans to cancel there season long subscription and get a refund if they says its because of the protests.

the Packers and Falcons are already talking about asking fans to join in anthem activities this week so maybe a way of pushing the linking arms for unity and getting away from the kneeling that is causing the most negative reaction.
Would be interested to see whose outrage extends to cancelling their Sunday Ticket. Talk about easily offended.... aren't those kind of people normally called snowflakes?

What are Direct TV thinking? That it makes them look good? No it doesn't. It makes them look reactionary and pandering. And all it will do is lose them customers or credibility.
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Old 27.09.2017, 09:09 PM
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so guess not everyone associated with the NFL supports the anthem protest.

Direct TV who run the "sunday ticket" in the states are allowing fans to cancel there season long subscription and get a refund if they says its because of the protests.
Can Bob get his GamePass refund the same way?

I know he was deeply offended by the protests

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the Packers and Falcons are already talking about asking fans to join in anthem activities this week so maybe a way of pushing the linking arms for unity and getting away from the kneeling that is causing the most negative reaction.
Or perhaps it will go the other way? Spectators kneeling for the anthem. Not in Dallas, I imagine. But LA? A very visible way to take sides.

The risk Trump runs by identifying himself with the anthem is that he gets mixed up in it, it starts to become about him, and he becomes the figurehead.

If fans start kneeling, and schoolkids start kneeling, and soldiers start kneeling, what then Trump? Fire them all?

You never know with protests. The Syrian War began because one guy set himself on fire in Tunisia. Butterflies flapping their wings and all.
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Old 28.09.2017, 05:15 AM
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Apologies if this has been said before.

This scenario has been manipulated by Trump and is typical of his previous behaviour IMO.

There was a danger that the anthem's protest was dying away until Trump decided to make THAT speech. My reason for saying this is that one of the higher profile protest involved the Browns in Preseason. It offended some involved with the police in Cleveland, and endangered their involvement in Browns games this season. Through reasoned intervention (notably Jim Brown) and discussion involving ALL parties, a solution was reached which satisfied most parties.

Then came Trump!
I give him credit, because he has done similar too often to be unaware of what he is doing. Even though the initial part of the attack on players (calling them SOBs) was probably sufficient in stoking the protests, he further insulted them by being dismissive of their safety/health with his ridiculing PF penalties. IMO his speech was telling the country they were performing animals (albeit highly paid). By doing so, he guaranteed the reaction that followed. In turn, he created a situation for the owners where they were either seen to stand by their players or remain awkwardly silent.

Again, IMO, THE prize for Trump was not the player protest itself, rather the damage to the NFL in revenge for his being unable to get a franchise and be a part of it. In this, in the short term at least, he has been successful. I think the players/NFL would be advised to be seen to redirect the argument from the anthem. After all, what struck me watching NFL games , was how good it was to see the show of appreciation USA had for their armed forces. How ironic, with all the white noise (no race reference) created by Trump, that a loud proportion of USA now feels the opposite.

The players and NFL need to be smart and highlight work they do in the communities. Heck, why not highlight in doing these things they are trying to bring USA together as opposed to divide it and weaken it.

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Old 08.10.2017, 06:37 PM
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Mike Pence went to the Colts game and left after some Niners took a knee for the anthem. He tweeted about it after. Seems to me that if someone takes a knee wherever he is and wherever he goes he won't be able to do most of his engagements. Which is nice.
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Old 08.10.2017, 08:26 PM
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Mike Pence went to the Colts game and left after some Niners took a knee for the anthem. He tweeted about it after. Seems to me that if someone takes a knee wherever he is and wherever he goes he won't be able to do most of his engagements. Which is nice.
Rumour on twitter (I have no idea if it’s true or not) claims that Pence had a previous appointment this evening and always intended leaving the game very early - suggests a little bit of ‘fake news’
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Old 08.10.2017, 08:57 PM
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Mike Pence went to the Colts game and left after some Niners took a knee for the anthem. He tweeted about it after. Seems to me that if someone takes a knee wherever he is and wherever he goes he won't be able to do most of his engagements. Which is nice.
who wouldn't use any excuse to get away from watching the 49ers/Colts.
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Old 08.10.2017, 10:56 PM
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https://twitter.com/palmerreport/sta...94739190734850

If this is true (and now multiple sources and reports saying it is) then the Vice President (at the apparent urge of President Trump) has diverted halfway across country to go to a football game, purely in order to walk out in mock protest, and used a photo taken 3 years ago to show himself at the stadium.

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