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Old 27.12.2008, 04:29 PM
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Vann this is what i mean about Elano not looking interested

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...5875-20990670/


"City had been warned by Elano’s former coach at Shakhtar Donetsk, Romanian Mircea Lucescu, that he can be a bad influence in the dressing room."
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Sven knew this when he signed him, its not anything new, he knew he would only be happy when he is playing.Lots of brazilians are like that especially from thier mid 20's onwards, as there is so much competition for national team places, and they are desperate to play.Alex has just done the same thing at Chelsea, asked for a transfer ( allegedly) as he isnt playing regularly.So has Adriano at Inter. And Wagner Love at CSKA Moscow.

Jose obviously thinks he can get something from him,or else he wouldnt be intererested in him, and he is hardly the type of manager who will let people waltz along without pulling thier weight. He didnt even allocate Crespo a champions league squad place this season !!

Brazilian players are like that, mentally I dont think many of them are very strong, as they rely too much on thier technical ability, (Deco for example ,who for all intents and purposes is Brazilian, has faded after bright starts, at both Barca and now at Chelsea )The Argentinians are a little different as they love to get stuck in physically.

I would still take a chance on him, with the type of manager he can relate to a little better (ie Mourinho or Scolari) the common language might help them to understand each other more.

Whats portuguese for "Your avin a laugh guv, why am I not in the team?"

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Old 28.12.2008, 02:04 PM
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Newcastle 1 Liverpool 5

Oh well, the news that Mike Ashley has taken the club off the market went down well
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Old 28.12.2008, 07:45 PM
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Chelsea have been shocking ever since Steve Clarke left and Ray Wilkins replaced him , all the fluency has left our play. I dont know what the hell Wilkins is doing in his training sessions, but he is no Steve Clarke. The Vialli teams of old showed the same tactical inflexibility and its no coincidence Wilkins was the asst manager then as well.

Scolari seems tactically inept, and never willing to change his system, he has been playing the same way since he won the world cup. He always seems to play Deco further out wide now instead of giving him a roaming role.And why is he taking the corners instead of Lampard?? threee of his corners today failed to beat the first defender, pathetic. Yet its always hardworking Joe Cole who gets subbed instead of golden boy Deco, who has just come to London for a pension.

I am also tired of big Phil's excuses and inability to react to pressure on a weekly basis as opposed to monthly.

Remember when he made excuses BEFORE Portugal lost to Germany in the summer, by saying his team was not tall enough in defense?

Convenient that he ommited the fact that Carvalho is around 6 foot and Pepe is 6-2 !!!!

Its just excuse after excuse with him. His teams simply cannot defend from set pieces, we saw that again today, even his Portugal team lost to Germany in the summer when they conceded two goals to set pieces. Last season we only conceeded 3 goals from corners and only 1 goal the season before that. This year we have conceeded four already

He came out with the priceless quote about not putting defenders on posts during corners cos "corners dont score goals, players do".

Get this clown out at the end of the season.

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Old 28.12.2008, 11:01 PM
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**** result I know Vann, but I think it was unfair on the side. Fulham scored from 2 set pieces totally out of context with the rest of the play. Also Chelsea's injuries messed up their subs options when half the midfielders/attackers aren't at all fit. Plus the team could easily have scored more goals with the chances created.

Ray Wilkins isn't doing any training, he's basically a media front and translator for Scolari, so he's not the issue, but the fact that we got rid of Clarke might be, not because of tactics but because he could ensure that the methodology of the coach was properly carried out in training.

Scolari:
1. I think he's been limited in his systems/subs by what he's had available (basically not enough-Liverpool have better cover up front)
2. Scolari has actually changed his system quite regularly if you look close enough. Drogba actually played 3 positions v Fulham, mainly dependent on how much running he had in him i.e. none towards the last 20 minutes, hence playing right wing.

Carvalho isn't 6 foot, he's closer to 5-10, but you're right Scolari hasn't prepared the team particularly well from set pieces, although I would say that the team was rubbish against set pieces under Jose for his last 18 months in charge too. Losing Gallas was a big blow there. But Deco taking set pieces (or playing at all on current form) is inexcusable, he's been absolute gash.
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Old 29.12.2008, 06:02 PM
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"Stevie Me" still in custody, making headlines for all the wrong reasons....


Liverpool captain Gerrard in custody after bar fight


LONDON (AFP) — Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard was in custody Monday after being arrested following a fight at a bar on Merseyside, reports and a police source said.
The fight took place overnight in Southport, near Liverpool in northwest England, hours after English Premier League leaders Liverpool won 5-1 away to Newcastle United on Sunday, with Gerrard scoring two goals.

"Six men were arrested on suspicion of section 20 assault on Lord Street," said a spokesman for Merseyside Police, without officially confirming England midfielder Gerrard's identity.
Gerrard was arrested at around 2:30 am local time (0230GMT) after a disturbance at Southport's Lounge Inn. By the end of the afternoon he was still in custody, as police continued questioning the six detainees.
A 34-year-old local man, whom sources later said was a DJ at the Lounge Inn, a restaurant which doubles up as a music venue, was taken to hospital with injuries to his face.
But these were not believed to be life threatening, the spokesman added.
The six men included a 28-year-old man from Formby, north of Liverpool, as well as other men aged 33, 31, 29, 19 and 18. Gerrard is 28.

Gerrard's wife, and the mother of his two daughters, Alex Curran left a coffee shop near the police station where he was being questioned shortly after 2:30 pm (1430GMT) Monday.
Curran, a model and fashion columnist, refused to answer questions from reporters before driving off in her car.
Meanwhile the sister of the Lounge Inn co-owner, Dario Curcillo, said Gerrard had been there to celebrate his team's win over Newcastle.
"As far as I know he comes here regularly and it was just a normal night at the bar," she said. "I don't know anything about what happened last night."
She added her brother was unavailable for comment.

A spokesman for Liverpool Football Club declined to confirm or deny that Gerrard was involved.
Southport, a prosperous seaside town, is known as somewhere where footballers from nearby Premier League clubs such as Liverpool go to socialise.
Gerrard, who has played 70 times for England since making his international debut in 2000, is not renowned for off-field indiscretions.
However, in 2001, he was spotted out drinking 11 hours before he was due to meet up with the rest of the England squad and had to apologise to then national manager Sven-Goran Eriksson.
Liverpool head into the New Year with a three-point lead over Chelsea at the top of the Premier League table.

Gerrard, speaking after the Newcastle match, said: "This is the best team I have played with.
"If we want to stay at the top and be involved in this title race we have got to deal with the pressure."
Liverpool won the last of their record 18 English titles in 1990 and keeping star player Gerrard fit and available is widely considered essential if they are to win the Premier League this season.
In April, Gerrard's father revealed how a Merseyside "underworld" figure had threatened to shoot his son.
Born in the Liverpool suburb of Huyton, Gerrard has only ever played professional club football for Liverpool, for whom he made his debut in 1998.
Three years ago he inspired the team to come from 3-0 down at half-time to beat Italian side AC Milan in the Champions League final in Istanbul, as Liverpool reclaimed European club football's most prestigious trophy.
Last year Gerrard signed a contract keeping him at Anfield until 2011 and this October saw him score his 100th goal for Liverpool.

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Old 29.12.2008, 06:24 PM
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Never heard of this guy, but I guess Arry doesnt rate him ....

Valencia have agreed a deal to sign Dag Alexander Olsen from Tottenham Hotspur, according to the player's father.
Olsen has spent two years at White Hart Lane, but the Norwegian has yet to make a first-team appearance for the Premier League club.
His contract expires at the end of the season and the striker has now accepted a move to Spain with Valencia.
The youngster's father Dag Erland Olsen confirmed that Valencia had been long-term admirers of the 19-year-old.

"His contract with Tottenham expires in the summer and, when Valencia came with an offer for four-and-a-half years, the decision was easy," Olsen told VG.
"The most important thing for us is that the clubs reached an agreement.
"Valencia have shown interest ever since Alex signed for Tottenham and he has now taken that step.
"He has learned a lot at the academy and developed well, but when new managers come in a few times, it might be the worst possible thing for a young foreign player."
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Old 29.12.2008, 09:31 PM
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I might have known.

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"Stevie Gee" still in custody, making headlines for all the wrong reasons after his two goal man of the match wonder show helped to extend Liverpools lead over Chelsea at the top of the Premiership....

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The only thing sad acts like v_m need to remember is this bit, '(Gerrard) is not renowned for off-field indiscretions'.

What happened is a common occurence, I'm sure we've all been there, some gobby clown, probably a local, Manc or mouthy cockney type get's what's coming to him from someone within your group and then the lot of yers are rounded up and taken in for questioning. I doubt it would have made the local rag had the son of god not been involved.
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Old 30.12.2008, 12:42 AM
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"Stevie Me" still in custody, making headlines for all the wrong reasons....


Liverpool captain Gerrard in custody after bar fight



http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...V9qp1xAbJ2qq4g
Using my illicit sources within the football world, I can bring you lucky nflukers a transcript of the event...


Man #1: You fightin'
Steevey G: You Askin'
Man #2: Well we're askin'
Man #3: Well we're fighin'
Man #4: Calm down, Calm Down
All [highpitch]: Ay, Ay, Ay
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I might have known.



The only thing sad acts like v_m need to remember is this bit, '(Gerrard) is not renowned for off-field indiscretions'.

What happened is a common occurence, I'm sure we've all been there, some gobby clown, probably a local, Manc or mouthy cockney type get's what's coming to him from someone within your group and then the lot of yers are rounded up and taken in for questioning. I doubt it would have made the local rag had the son of god not been involved.
Might as well throw in Geordies, West Country(ers), Scottish, Irish and Welsh for good measure, that way we can be pretty sure it was someone from the UK.
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I might have known.



The only thing sad acts like v_m need to remember is this bit, '(Gerrard) is not renowned for off-field indiscretions'.

What happened is a common occurence, I'm sure we've all been there, some gobby clown, probably a local, Manc or mouthy cockney type get's what's coming to him from someone within your group and then the lot of yers are rounded up and taken in for questioning. I doubt it would have made the local rag had the son of god not been involved.
It's not common occurence to get charged though.
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