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Old 09.07.2019, 07:55 PM
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NFC Dream Team:

Offence:

QB: Aaron Rodgers (Green Bay Packers)
RB: Saquon Barkley (New York Giants)
WR: Julio Jones (Atlanta Falcons)
WR: Michael Thomas (New Orleans Saints)
WR: Adam Thielen (Minnesota Vikings)
TE: George Kittle (San Francisco 49ers)

LT: David Bakhtiari (Green Bay Packers)
LG: Brandon Scherff (Washington Redskins)
C: Jason Kelce (Philadelphia Eagles)
RG: Zack Martin (Dallas Cowboys)
RT: Ryan Ramczyk (New Orleans Saints)

Defence:

LDE: Cameron Jordan (New Orleans Saints)
DT: Aaron Donald (Los Angeles Rams)
DT: Fletcher Cox (Philadelphia Eagles)
RDE: Khalil Mack (Chicago Bears)

LB: Jaylon Smith (Dallas Cowboys)
LB: Bobby Wagner (Seattle Seahawks)
LB: Luke Keuchly (Carolina Panthers)

CB: Patrick Peterson (Arizona Cardinals)
CB: Marshon Lattimore (New Orleans Saints)

S: Harrison Smith (Minnesota Vikings)
S: Eddie Jackson (Chicago Bears)

K: Will Lutz (New Orleans Saints)
P: Johnny Hekker (Los Angeles Rams)

HC: Sean Payton (New Orleans Saints)
Uniform: Dallas Cowboys
Stadium: AT&T Stadium (Dallas Cowboys)


Is it harsh to say the NFC puts the AFC to shame? It feels like it's loaded at almost every position!

Too many people say Rodgers is the most talented player to ever play the position to choose anyone else.

Despite a stable of absolute studs at RB I think whoever gets selected should have the backfield to themselves. As much as I like Zeke (and McCaffrey), as a pure runner, a pure gamebreaker, you cant look past Saquon. He's just too explosive.

Went with the 2 obvious NFC South choices on the outside at WR, and resisted the temptation of a 2nd RB to go with a dependable slot receiver in Thielen. Not as glamourous as Zeke, Kamara or McCaffrey, but I think it offers better balance. Toss a coin for Ertz or Kittle too.

Jeez. It just doesn't stop, the O line is stacked too, especially at OT!

D line? Scary. Check. Aaron Donald at the centre of it, probably in the running for my favourite NFL player of All-Time...….he's only played 5 seasons...….and he's only 28!

LB? Pick 3, from 7? or 8? Loaded. Despite my worries about Keuchly's concussions you cant leave off a potential HoF'er. The other HoF'er (Wagner) gets the MLB spot though. Either Cowboys LB would fit, plus you have to consider Jones, Roquan and Martinez. Went with Jaylon, he's almost back to his best.

Patrick Peterson and Lattimore, tough to top those 2 as athletes (although PED's/Concussions cast a shadow on them). Harrison Smith was a lock. FS was the only spot that had me thinking. Went with Jackson, basically because of the competition. He's only done it for 1 season though, behind a very good Defence too. We'll see.

Lutz never lets me down in fantasy (the rest of my team does a good enough job of that!). Hekker is a legend in the making it seems.

Dislike Carroll. Don't dislike Payton as much as Carroll.

Iconic Cowboys Star. Prefer Soldier Field to Lambeau so of the shiny new Stadiums i'll stick with AT&T (not a fan of the Falcons petal, flowery, whirly openy roof thingy).
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Old 10.07.2019, 07:57 PM
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NFC

QB: Russell Wilson (Seattle)
RB: Ezekiel Elliott (Dallas)
WR: Julio Jones (Atlanta)
WR: Michael Thomas (New Orleans)
WR: Adam Thielen (Minnesota)
TE: George Kittle (San Francisco)

LT: Terron Armstead (New Orleans)
LG: Brandon Scherff (Washington)
C: Jason Kelce (Philadelphia)
RG: Zack Martin (Dallas)
RT: Lane Johnson (Philadelphia)


DE: Khalil Mack (Chicago)
DT: Aaron Donald (LA Rams)
DT: Fletcher Cox (Philadelphia)
DE: Chandler Jones (Arizona)

LB: Luke Keuchly (Carolina)
LB: Bobby Wagner (Seattle)

CB: Patrick Peterson (Arizona)
CB: Marshon Lattimore (New Orleans)
CB: Byron Jones (Dallas)
SS: Harrison Smith (Minnesota)
FS: Eddie Jackson (Chicago

K: Greg Zuerlein (LA Rams)
P: Johnny Hekker (LA Rams)

HC: Pete Carroll (Seattle)
Uniform: Atlanta (not Green Bay)
Stadium: Lambeau Field (Green Bay)

Wilson over Rodgers is maybe the biggest choice. I feel one is in his prime and one is slightly past his. Rodgers' ego seems to be clouding his judgement of when to live to fight another down whereas Wilsons' judgement is sounder in this regard.

Elliott is purely down to my belief of what a running game should give you which is keep ticking over safely without negative plays - let the passing game give you the explosive plays. He does enough in the pass game himself too. Barkley will have the greater career, though.

I would have preferred Mike Evans here to Thielen (Thomas takes plenty of snaps over the slot) but he wasn't available. He's massively underrated - 6,000 yards in 5 seasons without a great QB including 1500 last year at 17.7 yards a go.

Kittle over Ertz hurts my heart but Kittle gives you more yards after the catch and that is the difference.

On the line I'm assuming everyone fit for a one off game so give me Armstead over anyone. I feel that it's a highly athletic line that could do great things in the run game as well as with pass protection - that was the difference for me with Lane over the others at right tackle as well.

In defence it might be a slightly soft line against the run on the edges (maybe a 3-4 would work better for this but I wanted to play nickel and it's easier to do that with 4 down rushers) but your QB will be hit in the pass game and the gruesome twosome at linebacker will clean up any issues. Love the secondary.

For Head Coach Carroll's college success and greater season to season consistency in the NFL elevates him above Sean Payton in my estimation, Doug needs to do it for longer to be deemed on the same level as them and McVay needs to win the big one.

For the Uniform and Ground, for me the Packers are the soul of the game (but Atlanta for uniform since that is not an option). Cheesy, perhaps, but there we are.

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Old 10.07.2019, 09:25 PM
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@djhdjh - Minnesota was the uniform from NFC North that got through to this stage.
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@djhdjh - Minnesota was the uniform from NFC North that got through to this stage.
Thanks, was clearly getting carried away with rhetoric about souls and nonsense like that.
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Old 11.07.2019, 04:33 PM
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NFC Dream Team:

QB: Aaron Rodgers (Green Bay)
RB: Saquon Barkley (New York Giants)
RB: Alvin Kamara (New Orleans)
WR: Julio Jones (Atlanta)
WR: Michael Thomas (New Orleans)
TE: Zach Ertz (Philadelphia)

LT: Tyron Smith (Dallas)
LG: Brandon Scherff (Washington)
C: Alex Mack (Atlanta)
RG: Zach Martin (Dallas)
RT: Lane Johnson (Philadelphia)

DE: Aaron Donald (Los Angeles Rams)
DT: Damon Harrison (Detroit)
DE: Fletcher Cox (Philadelphia)

OLB: Khalil Mack (Chicago)
ILB: Bobby Wagner (Seattle)
ILB: Luke Kuechly (Carolina)
OLB: Ryan Kerrigan (Washington)

CB: Marshon Lattimore (New Orleans)
CB: Patrick Peterson (Arizona)
FS: Eddie Jackson (Chicago)
SS: Harrison Smith (Minnesota)

K: Greg Zuerlein (Los Angeles Rams)
P: Johnny Hekker (Los Angeles Rams)

Head Coach: Sean Payton (New Orleans)
Uniform: Minnesota Vikings
Stadium: AT&T Stadium (Dallas)

It was a lot more difficult to choose between the NFC Quarterbacks, I went with Aaron Rodgers, but a case could be made for the other 3 candidates.

Saquon Barkley is the all-purpose back that my Dream Team needed, but I felt that another Running Back with good receiving attributes would compliment him and work better than a third receiver, either Alvin Kamara or Christian McCaffrey would fit perfectly.

Julio Jones and Michael Thomas were the best of the Wide Receivers, Alshon Jeffrey could have pushed one of them out if he was fit for all of the games and a year or two younger.

Love what George Kittle could bring to this Dream Team, but Zach Ertz has been playing at that level for longer and is only 28.

So many options for the Tackle position and I went with Tyron Smith, I could have moved a left tackle to right tackle, but Lane Johnson is solid enough. Alex Mack or Jason Kelce was a difficult decision as well.

Aaron Donald, Khalil Mack, Luke Kuechly and Bobby Wagner were the players I wanted to try and fit into a front 7.

Forgot about Patrick Peterson in my NFC West team and the drugs issue shadows what has been a career consistently playing at the Pro Bowl level, but I’ll still include him. Lattimore had an amazing rookie season and should get back to that level. Earl Thomas wasn’t included due to the time missed, giving the place to Eddie Jackson.

I could make a case for any of the Head Coaches… New Orleans played the best football last season, so I picked Sean Payton.
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Old 11.07.2019, 06:48 PM
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AFC Dream Team:

QB: Tom Brady (New England)
RB: Melvin Gordon (LA Chargers)
WR: DeAndre Hopkins (Houston)
WR: Antonio Brown (Oakland)
WR: Odell Beckham Jr. (Cleveland)
TE: Travis Kelce (Kansas City)

LT: Taylor Lewan (Tennessee)
LG: Quenton Nelson (Indianapolis)
C: Ryan Kelly (Indianapolis)
RG: Joe Thuney (New England)
RT: Mitchell Schwartz (Kansas City)

DE: Von Miller (Denver) - Myles Garrett if not allowed to pick Von on the line
DT: Chris Jones (Kansas City)
DT: JJ Watt (Houston)
DE: Calais Campbell (Jacksonville)

LB: CJ Mosley (NY Jets)
LB: Darius Leonard (Indianapolis)

CB: Stephon Gilmore (New England)
CB: Jalen Ramsey (Jacksonville)
CB: Desmond King (LA Chargers)
S: Derwin James (Los Angeles Chargers)
S: Jamal Adams (New York Jets)

K: Justin Tucker (Baltimore)
P: Brett Kern (Tennessee)

Head Coach: Bill Belichick (New England)
Uniform: Los Angeles Chargers
Stadium: Arrowhead Stadium (Kansas)

Had to go with the kingpin at Quarterback. You just trust him to win the close ones in a way you don't yet with Mahomes.

Gordon is underrated, excellent at all three facets. Had Bell played last season it might have been different. The 3 receivers pretty much pick themselves, was tempted by Keenan Allen to have a specialist slot but all of those 3 can also play in the slot and are pretty good there. Kelce is obvious.

Lewan is for my money the best tackle in the game, even if Kamara did mug him off in the Pro Bowl! Would have picked Mitch Morse at center given the option.

Great mix of speed and power on the D line. JJ Watt at DT feels fair given how much he plays on the interior anyway.

Secondary more or less picks itself apart from King. I think that being able to specialise in the slot as a corner is more significant than as a receiver and having a specialist there I was going to pick him. And he can return excellently too.
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Russell Wilson over Aaron Rodgers is an interesting one.

I do feel like my own opinion of Rodgers is influenced by how the rest of the world sees him i.e. as numero uno.

With Wilson though I feel like I penalise him in my mind because he doesn't receive the same level of praise for his skills (not sure any QB does really).

Whenever I watch Wilson though, 9/10 he does something that makes me either annoyed (if i'm rooting for the other team) or just shake my head because you don't see many other QB's make a successful play like that. Rodgers on the other hand, you almost expect him to make godly throws now and again, but recently I find myself thinking 'is he as good as they make out?' because he seems to force things or seemingly blame others for his failures.

2019, with a new coaching staff, could see Rodgers cement his status as the best of the best, or a few more might start to doubt if he's still got 'it'. It'll be interesting for sure.
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Only come to that view in the last season. Maybe it's unfair given Rodgers was coming off injury but it felt like he was pressing too much (maybe trying to prove he could make anything happen regardless of coaching) and making mistakes he wouldn't usually make. Wilson's judgement, especially in out of structure plays, is outstanding. He's not quite as talented with arm strength or ability to fit the ball anywhere from any angle (though he certainly has both those things, just not as well as Rodgers) so if Rodgers can refind his equilibrium with knowing when to live another down he'll be back ahead.
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AFC Dream Team
QB: Patrick Mahomes (Kansas City)
RB: Melvin Gordon (Los Angeles Chargers)
WR: Odell Beckham Jr. (Cleveland)
WR: DeAndre Hopkins (Houston)
WR: Antonio Brown (Oakland)
TE: Travis Kelce (Kansas City)

LT: Taylor Lewan (Tennessee)
LG: Quenton Nelson (Indianapolis)
C: Rodney Hudson (Oakland)
RG: Shaq Mason (New England)
RT: Mitchell Schwartz (Kansas City)

DE: J.J. Watt (Houston)
NT: Michael Pierce (Baltimore)
DE: Joey Bosa (Los Angeles Chargers)

EDGE: Myles Garrett (Cleveland)
LB: Darius Leonard (Indianapolis)
EDGE: Von Miller (Denver)

CB: Stephon Gilmore (New England)
CB: Casey Hayward (Los Angeles Chargers)
SS: Derwin James (Los Angeles Chargers)
SS: Jamal Adams (New York Jets)
FS: Earl Thomas (Baltimore)

K: Justin Tucker (Baltimore)
P: Dustin Colquitt (Kansas City)

HC: Bill Belichick (New England)
Uniform: Los Angeles Chargers
Stadium: Arrowhead Stadium (Kansas City)
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NFC Dream Team

QB: Russell Wilson (Seattle)
RB: Saquon Barkley (New York Giants)
RB: Christian McCaffrey (Carolina)
WR: Michael Thomas (New Orleans)
WR: Julio Jones (Atlanta)
TE: George Kittle (San Francisco)

LT: David Bakhtiari (Green Bay)
LG: Zack Martin (Dallas)
C: Alex Mack (Atlanta)
RG: Brandon Scherff (Washington)
RT: Joe Staley (San Francisco)

DE: Khalil Mack (Chicago)
NT: Damon Harrison (Detroit)
DT: Aaron Donald (Los Angeles Rams)
DE: Chandler Jones (Arizona)

LB: Luke Keuchly (Carolina)
LB: Bobby Wagner (Seattle)

CB: Kyle Fuller (Chicago)
CB: Marshon Lattimore (New Orleans)
CB: Patrick Peterson (Arizona)
FS: Eddie Jackson (Chicago)
SS: Harrison Smith (Minnesota)

K: Greg Zuerlein (Los Angeles Rams)
P: Johnny Hekker (Los Angeles Rams)

HC: Pete Carroll (Seattle)
Uniform: Minnesota Vikings
Stadium: Centurylink Field (Seattle)
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