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Old 22.07.2013, 03:47 PM
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Completely agree, Test Cricket IS Cricket as far as I'm concerned.

The limited over formats are exhibition games, I can just about stand 50 over cricket, but T20 is just anti-cricket for me. The highest point of celebration in Cricket is taking wickets, where as T20 (and ODI's to a lesser extent) is about scoring Fours and Sixes and scoring runs as quickly as possible. It frustrates me the way batsmen have to alter the way play and how a strike rate of less than 60/70 is almost unacceptable! Oh and I hate the way people say that limited overs Cricket as a great way to get people into the game, it really isn't!

I hear people say things like it's too long, it's boring, you play 5 days and it still ends in a draw etc. Test Match cricket at it's best is the most exciting form of the game, look at the Trent Bridge Test Match the way it ebbed and flowed, one way then the other, just brilliant!

That 3 match series against South Africa was a joke, the 2 best teams in the world and we only got a 3 match series (I still think we'd have lost it had there been more tests!), the one day series against the Aussies was one big money making exercise!

As someone who has grown up watching Test Cricket it really frustrates me to see empty stadiums around the world for Tests, particularly on the sub-continent, where the limited overs format reigns... don't get me started on the IPL!
ODIs are fine and a solid part of the game but they're inferior to test match cricket by a long shot.

i've never watched a T20 game and enjoyed it - boring. twenty over cricket is what happens on a tuesday night between two office teams (who often don't have enough players so they grab club players who are practising in the nets) only for it to become a mad dash to get the game in it gets dark.
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That's how I got into it, being foreign. I then educated myself to the other formats gradually (ain't easy) and, indeed, it took a while to fathom why batsmen were leaving balls off instead of hitting every delivery. Soon enough got hooked by the Test format and now I can't stand the silly pyjama stuff anymore. It is an evil format with its grip on the international schedule and its tackiness, but unfortunately... this is all you get on free to air television.
That's really interesting! Was it through T20 or 50 Over cricket you got into it? My point was more about T20, as this more anti-cricket than ODI!
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Old 22.07.2013, 03:51 PM
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That's really interesting! Was it through T20 or 50 Over cricket you got into it? My point was more about T20, as this more anti-cricket than ODI!
i'm ok with people watching limited overs cricket to start with, but if after a few months you have graduated to test cricket, then just stop watching it altogether.
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Old 22.07.2013, 03:56 PM
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i'm ok with people watching limited overs cricket to start with, but if after a few months you have graduated to test cricket, then just stop watching it altogether.
This makes you sound like a Cricket snob.
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Old 22.07.2013, 04:25 PM
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I think the word you were looking for is purist
20/20 should only be played on day 5 of a test if the game ends
a day early, like a beer match in club cricket, something for the
fans who have shelled out big money and booked time off work
to see the real thing.
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That's really interesting! Was it through T20 or 50 Over cricket you got into it? My point was more about T20, as this more anti-cricket than ODI!
The IPL in 2010 and then the ODI World Cup - moved on to Tests exclusively straight after. As a newbie all the nonsense and cheap commercialism did not really turn me off although it does now. Ultimately it's the nuance, complexity and subtlety of the sport that made me really fond of cricket - if T20 was all there was to it I probably would have ditched cricket by now.

But you can't deny that giving Tests to Sky has probably prevented hundreds, thousands of potential lovers of the game the chance get into it. We can blame T20 for the direness of its product, but it's free to watch. Easier to explain. Shorter to end. More fun for the office crowd after work. The Cricket Boards are not going to just watch the opportunity go past them it's impossible.

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Old 22.07.2013, 05:21 PM
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I think the word you were looking for is purist
20/20 should only be played on day 5 of a test if the game ends
a day early, like a beer match in club cricket, something for the
fans who have shelled out big money and booked time off work
to see the real thing.

I don't think I'd go as far as to say 20/20 should only be played in these circumstances, but I do like the idea of a game being played should a test finish a day early.
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Old 22.07.2013, 08:21 PM
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Pitch or wicket, it doesn't matter. Walsh? Or Warne?
I got that one right at least. I used to love watching Courtney and Curtley.

I also think the number of matches in a series should be based on how close the two teams are in the rankings. I can see it sort of working like the "plate" system in rugby 7s but I've no idea how if there are any plans to modify the Test Championship or just leave it as passing a crown to the team ranked number 1 in the world. Looking from up here, I didn't think there was enough fanfare or acknowledgement of England reaching number 1. That was some achievement.
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Old 22.07.2013, 08:50 PM
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James Pattinson has been ruled out of the rest of the series with an injury.

This must be a huge blow for the Aussies, losing one of their best batsmen.
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Old 22.07.2013, 08:56 PM
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I'm as big an advocate of Test cricket as anybody, but I think some of the points being put across on here today are ridiculous.

While I agree to a point that the short form of the game is damaging both batting and bowling at the highest (Test) level, it is the short format which is bringing in the money for the game to continue. Without T20 cricket, I'd be willing to bet that at least three counties would have had to have been demoted to minor county status in the last five years due to financial issues. Without T20 cricket in India, Australia and the Caribbean we'd be racking our brains at the moment trying to work out why cricket was seeing a big loss of popularity globally and how to save it.

I don't particularly like T20 cricket, and I don't find ODIs anywhere near as fulfilling as Test cricket, but both have their place and both are here to stay. While Test cricket is, and always will be, the pinnacle of the sport, limited-overs cricket is also an entertaining and valuable asset for cricket's growth internationally. Test nations come from a limited-overs background, and Test players often get their start in limited-overs cricket.

I'd love to see a shift in the levels of interest back to Test matches (and more so than that, 4 day County Championship cricket) and would certainly welcome batsmen who can play a long innings (in the mould of Joe Root, who I think will turn into the ultimate modern batsman) and bowlers who can build a consistent spell, but much like the NFL must adapt to the developments in athletes coming through the college system, Test match cricket will adapt to the cricketers being produced by the modern-day set up.
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