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Old 12.01.2014, 02:15 AM
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Hey There,

This seems like an appropriate place to post this game I'm running on the forth coming Super Bowl. I did this last Super Bowl just on the evening itself in the pub before Super Bash and inside the venue before kick off but ran out of time due mainly to it being to loud and hectic inside the venue to both try and canvas for punters plus explain how it all works. In the end I near on lost my voice and ran out of time meaning I had to cover 35 unsold squares myself.

For that reason I was not going to bother this year due to all that aggro but due to multiple posts in the Super Bash 2014 thread enquiring about my squares game this year I have relented. I've spent a fair bit of time modifying the way I can run it to still make it random luck what numbers you get but at the same time take the pressure of myself (hopefully) and get it all sorted out before the big night itself. Also by using this new method any one can have a go whether they are attending Super Bash or not. Hell you don't even have to like American Football - certainly not all of my work colleagues that will have a go do.

So if you like a wee punt and fancy having an extra interest in the big game then please read on...

This year I am running 2 grids - one 2 GBP and the other 5 GBP a square - each with different prize structures in the way they pay out. This is due to many years ago photo copying grids up after deciding on the prizes and pay outs never thinking down the line I would want to do things differently, especially after feedback on the prizes. Alas now can't change them with out having to re-draw up whole new grids from scratch as they would need to be blank to start with and my stack are not. Neither do I have the time nor space to do this so for this reason is why I am sticking with them the way the ones I have are and why the grids pay out in different ways.

So this is how they work:

The 2 GBP grid I ran first (several years ago) once I learnt about the game on a trip to the USA to see an NFL game - as not enough people that I saw in person were interested I had to go further a field to sell all the squares offering them to internet friends and fantasy games contacts I had made over the years from forums like this one. So with the copying up of the grids multiple times plus possible postage costs to send the grid out to people I did not see in person factored out 20 GBP from the game prize pot to cover/go towards these costs. Some years it was less others more but that's just how it went.

Now in the US the prizes got bigger with each quarter - hence why when I first did the game here I made my 2 GBP grid the same way but many players (work colleagues and forum contacts) mentioned in messages and comments that they thought it unfair and that the prizes should be all the same. So taking that on board when using my last blank grid last year as the base for my 5 GBP grid which I ran at Super Bash after I had written out the prizes decided before I started selling the squares to save me time in future years (in case the game worked well) I should actually copy it up before any team names went on it - but alas had already written in the cost and prize structure etc., so every starting 5 GBP grid I have is now set like that - making each prize on them 124 GBP each. As I was only going to sell them on the night last year in person did not need to factor out postage, photo copying or anything other than buying a raffle ticket book and a few highlighter pens etc., to do the grid on the night - so just took 1 GBP off each prize - totalling 4 GBP - to cover those costs.

However I never envisaged how hard it would be to sell them all just on the night and had a terrible time sweating the scores of that game at the end of each quarter and the final result as I had to cover 35 unsold squares (as I mentioned earlier). I am an honourable man so had it gone against me would have gone to a cash point and got out the missing funds to pay the winners out but never want to be in that position again. I myself was happy and even would love to have had the last 2 squares left for myself - as I am at heart a gambler and why I come up with these games and schemes as I would love to play them but feel if I don't run them, never seem to find anyone else who does. So that's one of the big reasons why I do them - so I can be in them to... sweep stakes, fantasy money leagues and now Super Bowl Squares on my favourite event of the year - the Super Bowl.

So to take the pressure of me on the night and not make me feel like a walking potential mugging victim am doing it all in advance of Super Bowl Sunday. This way also opens up the potential field of partakers as now anyone can play and not just those going to the Super Bash. I can sell squares to work colleagues, personal friends and of course NFL fans off of this forum who fancy having something extra to look out for while watching the big game.

Hopefully the people who played in person last year will see this and not only comment how much fun it was for them but have a go this year to. Hopefully I can sell them all well before Super Bowl Sunday itself and send grids out to everyone who wants one.

So here's how I plan to make this work and feel will be the least stressful for me.

This is how it works - I have 2 grids each with a 100 squares on - one grid is 5 GBP@square and total prize fund is 496 GBP (-4 GBP from the pot for raffle book/pens etc.) and the other grid is 2 GBP@square with a total prize find of 180 GBP (-20 GBP from the pot towards photo-copying grids, envelopes and postage etc. to send grids out).

The reason the games are different in the way I cover my costs and how the prizes work is I never planned originally to do the 5 GBP one like this so hence never factored out costs for having to copy up many grids and sending multiple copies out by post etc. but that is why I am explaining this difference in how I am covering my running costs.

In the 2 GBP game all costs are included - I just have to hope that it works out either most of these squares will be bought by people that I see in person or by people who are also having a 5 GBP square.

But either way hopefully the 20 GBP taken from that game will cover all my postage and other associated costs and if not hopefully have a few mates that could perhaps send a few grids out for me from their work on my behalf - but that's on me to sort out.

With the 5 GBP grid only 4 GBP comes out of this prize pool so that just covers the highlighter pens, raffle book and photo copying the original chart a few times. So for this reason any one wanting their own personal copy of the grid to be sent to them who will not see me in person before the game - either in the pub before Super Bash or at my work, in my day to day life etc. then I will ask them to add just an extra 1 GBP to the total cost of all the squares they want when they PayPal me their entry money. Then I will make sure they are sent their own copy of the grid the Monday or Tuesday before the Super Bowl. This way any one can have the fun of not only knowing their own numbers but see every one else's on the grid. Anyone who is on the NFLUK forum I will use their forum name on the grid - only non NFLUK members (like some of my work colleagues) will I use their real names. That way it should be much more fun for most people on the NFLUK forum to see who's square it's on at any given time in the game but especially who's square it is on at the pre-designated points during the game that make a square a winner - that being the end of the first 3 quarters and the final result of the whole game - including O.T. (overtime) as they are the winners.

Now as I won't see most people in person have adapted these grids as follows to make it random - I have numbered every square on the 5 GBP grid from 1 - 100 and on the 2 GBP grid 101 - 200. That is to match the raffle tickets in the books I bought from Tesco's.

I will place all the raffle tickets in two different bags - one for the 5 GBP grid and the other the 2 GBP grid.

Now this is the clever bit and how I can start selling the squares right now (before even the S/B finalists are known) as normally I would sell all the squares before numbering the grid randomly in front of a witness. However I numbered the grid at work last week in front of a witness by using playing cards. I did this by taking an Ace (representing 1) thru to 10 (representing zero) from a pack of playing cards - I shuffled them up and then started to turn them over and number across the top of the grid the columns in the order the cards came out - which represent the AFC teams numbers. I then repeated the process for the rows which represents the NFC teams numbers.

To start selling the squares now and to still make it random luck what numbers you get I came up with the raffle ticket system. No one gets to pick their own numbers on the grid - they select a raffle ticket from the bag - or a proxy does this on their behalf (most likely a work colleague or personal friend of mine). The raffle ticket corresponds to the same numbered square on the grid and that becomes their square - they or I write their name in the square - or the proxy does on their behalf if they are not present. If I know their NFLUK forum name that will be used on the public grid (but will also keep a separate note myself of who each entrants real name is so I can pay out the correct winners after the Super Bowl itself).

Due to word limits will continue in the next post....


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Old 12.01.2014, 02:42 AM
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Doing it that way means people can know their squares numbers as soon as they have drawn them - or a proxy has on their behalf. The reason this can be done now before even the actual Super Bowl teams are known is because the AFC team always goes on the top of the grid - so is represented by the column numbers and the NFC team goes down the side so is always represented by the row numbers. So I can inform people right away what their numbers are - or if they are drawing in person their numbers will be written on the back of the actual raffle ticket(s) they draw. When the Super Bowl teams become known I can add them to the grid itself and hopefully by this time both grids are fully sold out so can copy them up and send/give copies to all who want one in time for the Super Bowl itself - so rather than just knowing your own numbers you can see every one else's and check who's square it's on as the game progresses.

Using the raffle ticket system insures no one gets to pick their boxes numbers - it's all still random luck what numbers you get and again is down to the actual scores in the real game at the predesignated points - so even more luck as to which squares actually win.

In case you don't understand how the game works here's a synopsis:-

Each grid has a 100 squares, which I randomly number the columns and rows of by using playing cards.

Across the top (when known) goes the AFC team (columns), down the side goes the NFC team (rows). The scores at the end of the first 3 quarters and the final result of the game (to cover the eventuality of O.T.) decides the wining boxes. Every score in the game changes the winning box and what box it's on at those predetermined points of the game (end of the first 3 quarters and final game score) wins the prize for that point.

the prizes are:-

*2 GBP Grid

1st QTR - 15 GBP
2nd QTR - 30 GBP
3rd QTR - 45 GBP
FINAL - 90 GBP

*5 GBP Grid

1st QTR - 124 GBP
2nd QTR - 124 GBP
3rd QTR - 124 GBP
FINAL - 124 GBP


*I explained above the reason for the different prize structures between the grids and am being completely up front about them - if you don't think it's fair then no one's forcing you to partake. I will have to cover (put in for) any unsold squares (but seriously hoping that won't be an issue this year) however if I manage to sell 98/99 of the squares on either grid then will put in for the last one or two left - that is if no one has any objections to this?

I don't get to pick my squares I just take the last two left on each grid - as after all I love a gamble to.


Now this is how the winning squares are determined.

Example:

If the score at the end of the first Quarter is AFC team 10, NFC team 3 you would go to AFC column zero (0 - because you just take the last digit of the teams scores) and NFC row 3 and where the two meet on the grid is the winning box for that Qtr. and this is how it works for the whole game. In effect (and it has happened) the same box can win more than one prize.

I first encountered this game on the champ train from Chicago to Champaign, Ilonis the season the Bears played at the University of Ilionis stadium while Soldier Field was being renovated. I got them to teach me how it worked as it was nothing like what we run on our sports here. There they do it in office pools and in bars or what have you on regular season games - or any games if there's enough punters - however they do it for bigger bucks $10 or $20 a square. NICE :-)


In the past here in the UK I have found it a real headache selling all the boxes so was not going to run it this year but having come up with the above system of making the internet work for me am giving it another go this year - if the interest is there and it works well this way then may make it an annual thing but if it all goes Pete Tong (wrong) especially if I loose money or have trouble selling all the squares before Super Bowl Sunday will not do it again in future years.

Now the raffle tickets are to make it completely random what numbers you get even after the grids columns and rows have been randomly numbered by me. I plan to send copies of the grids out to people requiring them the Monday/Tuesday before the Super Bowl giving the postal service plenty of time to get them to everyone. Also (worst case scenario for me) should the grids not be fully sold out by then the people who I send a grid to I will follow up with an e-mail later on in the week with the numbers of the blank boxes on their grid and who they now belong to having been sold later so they can fill them in and still have a complete grid come game day itself. This is just a back up if I have not managed to sell them fully by the time I start posting the grids out which I wish to do early to make sure everyone has them before the game takes place. Hopefully this worst case scenario will not need to be put into action.

Now payment / prize pay outs - anyone I don't see in my day to day life - so 99% of all NFLUK forum members I ask to pay me by PayPal but make sure to avoid fees you select you are just sending money to a friend. If you don't and some of the funds are taken by PayPal as a service charge I will have to chase you to make good the missing amount as I need the full funds to cover the prizes and my costs etc. to run this game.

Prize Pay outs to the winners will be by the same way they paid to enter - so if someone I see in person paid me in cash (most likely work colleagues) I will get them the cash but any one who paid by PayPal will be paid their winnings by PayPal by Tuesday (following the Super Bowl) at the latest. The reason I say Tuesday is I plan to go to the Super Bash party and it's a nightmare getting home afterwards - plus most likely will be rather suffering from a hang over so will probably not get to bed till 8-9am nor surface to Monday evening - as I always book that Monday off work to recover. So will - when I awake - double check the game scores and sort out who had the winning squares and then arrange payment - so most likely Monday evening but if I am really suffering (the after effects of the Bash) no later than Tuesday morning.

So if after reading all that you are willing to have a go I urge you to buy squares sooner rather than later so I can sell the grids in plenty of time to send them out fully completed. When you send payment across by PayPal I just ask in the message section you tell me your NFLUK username as this is what I will use on the public grid (one that gets copied and sent out to all) but also - just for me - will keep a note of your real name to link to your NFLUK username so I pay out the correct winners after the event. In the message section just say how many 5 GBP boxes and or 2 GBP boxes you want and I will get a work colleague or personal friend or acquaintance to draw the applicable grids raffle tickets on your behalf. Also if you want to be sent your own copy of the 5 GBP grid by post please include an extra 1 GBP - However if your buying squares on both grids then this is not necessary as the 2 GBP grid square covers your postage costs (I hope) and so it's no extra to send the 5 GBP one along with it.

That's it over to you guys (& gals) - now you just have to ask yourself
'DO YOU FEEL LUCKY'?
WELL DO YOU??????????????

best regards,

bluelionman


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blmfantasygames@hotmail.co.uk

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Noel - Sent you cash for 3 x £2 plays. I'd like a couple for the fiver game too, would you like me to send £10 or give it to you in cash at Superbash? E-mail me and I'll get it sorted.

Thanks for running the game.

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Noel - Sent you cash for 3 x £2 plays. I'd like a couple for the fiver game too, would you like me to send £10 or give it to you in cash at Superbash? E-mail me and I'll get it sorted.

Thanks for running the game.

Cheers
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There be all gone by Super Bash dude - selling well so it's by PayPal for any one that want's any and I'll get a work colleague to select squares (via the drawing of raffle tickets) on behalf of anyone I don't see in person.
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There be all gone by Super Bash dude - selling well so it's by PayPal for any one that want's any and I'll get a work colleague to select squares (via the drawing of raffle tickets) on behalf of anyone I don't see in person.
Just done 2 of each mate
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one £5 and two £2 sent
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Did you get Super Bash tickets yourself - or will you be running this from the car park?
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Did you get Super Bash tickets yourself - or will you be running this from the car park?
No I didn't get tickets in the random drawing but I will be there - have no fear will find a way - always do - but whether I am or not does not effect the game as if you read the rules I will be paying out the Tuesday after - not going to be a walking ATM this year, all done in advance of the night.
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Well hopefully see you there!

Can I get 2 x £5 and 5 x £2. Do I just send £30 via paypal to your email address?
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Well hopefully see you there!

Can I get 2 x £5 and 5 x £2. Do I just send £30 via paypal to your email address?
Errr my maths says what you want comes to 20 GBP but yes you send it across via PayPal but make sure to select your sending money to a friend to avoid PP taking fees out the money sent (as otherwise I'll have to chase you for them) as need the full amount to cover the prizes.

Any other questions or queries just e-mail me directly at


blmfantasygames@hotmail.co.uk


Also send an e-mail to say if you want me to bring you a copy of the grids to the slug & lettuce or if you want to be sent them by post - & if so also send us your name and postal address to the above e-mail.

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